Stuck in the Suburbs (2004)

[00:00:03] This is a Bramble Jam Podcast. Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode. Are we unmuted? DCOM Descendants! We're doing this! DCOM Descendants, we're back everybody! How are ya? Another Friday's here. Is it time for the DCOM Daily Minute? It's coming. It's coming.

[00:00:34] Listen. You guys think that's a bit for this show. But Bran talks about the DCOM Daily Minute to me more than I want him to. And I've been kind in entertaining it, but I also am like, just stop. No. No, no, no. I won't stop. Can't stop, won't stop. Can't stop, won't stop. We got any new reviews? We have a new rating, because we're up to 152, but they did not leave a review. We'll take it!

[00:01:02] They were so excited about the potential of the DCOM Daily Minute, and then when they found out that it's not a thing yet, they just left a rating. And it was clearly a five star, because we're still at 4.9. You know, we have what appears to be one four star, one two star, and two five stars. I mean, two one stars. Oh. All the rest five stars. Two one stars. Yeah. So I believe we have 148 five star ratings. How about that? And we have four non-five star ratings.

[00:01:31] Look at us, haters. Haters in the building. We're talking about Stuck in the Suburb. And I'm pretty sure it's Ryder Strong and Sabrina. What's her name? Kyle Carpenter. What's who? Also the magical. Is it her name? Sabrina something? Sabrina Bryan. Sabrina Bryan. And it's not Ryder Strong. It's Wilfredell. You got all the names wrong. Ryder Strong and Danielle Fishel. Now, Sabrina Carpenter was on Girl Meets Worlds. So, I mean, I see how you got there. Oh, is that her? Yeah. Unbelievable.

[00:02:01] I know. Maya, good for her. Yeah. Good for her doing stuff. See, this is the stuff you would find now. In the decom daily minute. I think you just skated right over that. I think everybody knew that but me. Good for Sabrina Carpenter. I would have talked about Sabrina Bryan. Sabrina Carpenter. Sabrina Bryan. Sabrina Bryan hasn't really done much. No. Sabrina Carpenter's Grammy win and stuff. I didn't know that was her. I didn't know it was her, and I'm thrilled for her. Good for her. Sabrina Carpenter, was she ever in a proper decom or just Girl Meets World? Do you know the answer to that? I have never heard of Sabrina Carpenter's.

[00:02:31] Believe it or not, I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to Erin. Was she? I don't think so. Okay. I think she pretty much, after Girl Meets World was canceled, just went right into. Right in the music. Being the badass that she is. I've never heard a Sabrina Carpenter song. Never heard one. But I've seen about every episode of Girl Meets World because when you love Boy Meets World, you watched it for all the reasons. Like every episode would be like, this is stupid.

[00:02:59] And then I would just keep watching it because it's like Corey and Topanga are going to be there. Sean may show up. Angela showed up at one point. Angela showed up. Yeah. You would watch it for those small little cameos. Yeah. Plays with Squirrels showed up. It was not a great. It was not a great television show. Well, because the thing I hate about reboots is they were like remaking Boy Meets World, but not for the fans who love Boy Meets World for their kids. And it's like, no, I'm 30. Please give me more.

[00:03:25] But also I think the reason, did it get canceled because Michael Jacobs was trying to make it a thing where like, you know, Boy Meets World was allowed for Corey and them to grow up. So the show started very kid friendly and then tackled some subjects that were not as kid friendly. Some episodes that aren't even aired anymore. You can only get them if you own the DVD. Yeah. And so I think Michael Jacobs wanted that trajectory with Girl Meets World. Like it starts off a little more kiddie and then as they grow older, it gets more serious.

[00:03:54] And Disney was like, no, that's not our bit. We do kids forever. Like that's the thing. We just, they're always, they're always there. That's why we never got the Lizzie McGuire reboot because they were like specifically making it. That doesn't, that doesn't make it like that was for Hulu. It's not like it was for Disney Channel. It didn't make any sense. No, it was for Disney. They're going to make it for Disney Channel? I thought they were making it for Hulu. No, they were making it for Disney and Hillary. Same thing, right guys? Disney, Hulu, ESPN.

[00:04:20] Well, more like an older crowd TV shows, those go on Hulu, but they're specifically making it for Disney and they wanted it to be for the original fans of Lizzie McGuire who were in their thirties. You know, Hillary wanted to show Lizzie as a 30 year old woman trying to figure everything out. And Disney was like, nope, this isn't for our platform. And so then there was a huge push. Well then just put it on Hulu because like love victors on Hulu.

[00:04:47] Like, you know, Disney has, you know, older shows on Hulu and Disney just said, you will never see this reboot. Which is why Disney plus you can now find Deadpool versus Wolverine on Disney plus. Yeah. Which, you know, easy access for my children, you know, to see, but not a Lizzie McGuire reboot. I just watched an interview with Ryan Reynolds last night where he says that he made Deadpool one, two and three for his kids. So kid friendly. Well, there you go. Maybe when they're grown.

[00:05:15] And for context, it was an interview about the movie If, and the reporter was giving him a hard time because John Krasinski made If for his kids. And they said, Ryan, what have you done for your kids? That's right. Classic. But it's a kid friendly movie according to Ryan and Disney. So. If by for my, for his kids, he means like their college fund. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And it's it. Easy money. I mean, you let your kids watch Deadpool. Every day. Every day. That's how they wake up. It's time for, it's time for the delish. Wake up watching Deadpool before you go to school.

[00:05:45] We're talking stuck in the suburbs. Starts at day right. Stuck in the suburbs today. Delish. Yeah. Oh, is that the first D-C-O-N? Yeah. Delish. Well, the D is for Daily Minute. And for Daily Minute. And for delish. Got it. What do we have today, Erin? Yeah. So today, there's a scene in the movie where she does a great job getting Jordan to sing at her mom's rally to save a house.

[00:06:13] And they treat her to a banana split Sunday. A giant. A ginormous banana split. Like bigger than her head. The three of these plates together, not even close to covering it. But I wasn't sure if we wanted to tackle, you know, this. That big of a split. We might have been recording this early in the morning. I wasn't sure if anyone was going to join me in eating a giant banana split. No. I'm going to take one bite of this as a courtesy for you making it. So I made a, it's like a banana split cake. Ooh. Real bananas in there?

[00:06:42] Real bananas, real strawberries. All right. Okay. My piece has pineapple, but yours doesn't. So what's the cake part of this? There's no cake. Oh, okay. It's just layered with fruit. So you're going to love it, bro. Yeah. Just whole ingredients. Graham Cracker Crust. All right. Here we go. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:11] That's way better than I was expecting it to be with just whole fruits in it. I'm in. Graham couldn't be more out. He just drank half a bottle of water. Love you though, Aaron. Man, I love it. If it wasn't nine in the morning, I'd eat the whole thing immediately. Man. You only, you only decom once a week. So you only decom once a week. I don't know if, what do you want to do with that? Good call, Aaron. Aaron. And this seems easy to make. Yeah. It took me less than half an hour. There's no, there's no baking involved.

[00:07:41] No baking. It's a no bag. It's a no bag situation. It's a no bag. Yeah. So if you don't want to tackle a full, I don't know, house-sized banana split by yourself, like the lead in Suck in the Suburbs does, this is a great alternative. Brought to you by Aaron. Great job, Aaron. Brought to you by Aaron. That's right. Brought to you in part by viewers and listeners and Aaron. Let's do this, shall we? Let's take a break. I love that. Let's take a break. We'll come back and we'll- You faded that out so hard.

[00:08:11] Well, I don't know what happened. You just went so hard. I did a like standard, you know, but it's like, maybe it was just the right time. Anyway, we'll be right back. Decom to Suck in the Suburbs.

[00:08:39] Decom to Suck in the Suburbs. We get to 300. Yeah, I think we're good. I think we're not doing those extra boys. Why are you so negative about that? I'm not negative. He has no hope and no dreams. I feel like we've gained and cultivated a solid audience for this program. We've done the bit where it grows when people find it. Now we have them. I think they're going to stick around. I think they're wonderful people. The reviews are great. 300. 300 is a different, that's a different, you know, tier. Different echelon. Echelon. Stuck in the Suburbs.

[00:09:07] July 16th, 2004. Summer of- Classic summer movie. It is- Summer of 04? Yeah. So you're 12. Yeah. You're 14. You guys are- Are you guys starting- I was 13 at this point. 13? I'm sorry. About to be 14. Yeah, that's right. About to be 14. Yes, I watched this movie. Watched it live? Yeah. Right in your wheelhouse. Watched it live? Yes? Okay. Written by- Stu Krager? No. The Engelberg family.

[00:09:36] Amy and Wendy. They put their heads together- Remember them on the credits? The first five minutes of this movie? Oh, yeah. That's right. It's all Engelbergs. Yeah. And then they brought in Daniel Berenson- The Berenstein Berenson. To help out with the script a little bit. Directed by Savage Steve Holland. Savage? Savage Steve Holland. Why- Macho man? Directed by- Why does he have a savage in front of his name? They call me Savage. I don't know.

[00:10:04] Not to be confused with Steve Holland, the writer. No. So maybe he did this just for fun, for himself. But- It's a weird nickname he got in like a writer's room one day. And then he just kept calling himself Savage. But I love that on Wikipedia here. It doesn't do the, like, here's his real name and then like nickname. It's just, he's Savage Steve Holland. He was born in 1960 and he didn't know that. Yeah. He wrote that Wikipedia page. He definitely did. He's had a bunch of programs for children.

[00:10:32] He manages his own studio, Savage Studios, which direct shows for Disney Channel and Nickelodeon. So he's still in the game. Savage. Still going after it. Starring Dan Yell Panabaker. That's right. Brenda Song. A couple of heavy hitters here. And Taron Killam. Taron Killam. From SNL fame. I watched him last night on High Potential. Had a much bigger role in last night's episode, or the one that I watched last night, than he usually does in the show. Oh, good. That's great. Something for me to look forward to tonight. He seemed like he actually had a character.

[00:11:02] Like, normally it's just like he shows up. He's not acting. And in this one he has an actual thing that happens. So there's that. He gets murdered? He does not get murdered. No. He's still doing the thing he always does, but there's a lot more screen time for him. I know you care, Brian, but we care. Yeah. No, I care. I care that you guys care. It's a great show. The movie kicks off with a pop song by the biggest star in the world, Jordan Cahill. Of course.

[00:11:27] He is the hot new thing out there in regards to the pop music. We get some fun, like, flashy graphics, magazine covers showing that Jordan Cahill is indeed pop sensation. And it cuts to the inside of a van with Brittany and her soccer friends, you know, soccer mom driving them home. And the mom is, like, ready to just jump out a window. Because they're, like, talking. All the houses look the same. Yes.

[00:11:56] She's trying to figure out the right house. That was a really weird bit to start this movie. Yeah, it is a depressed, like, she looks like she is in full midlife crisis mode. Yes. Like, this is all there is. There's nothing else. All the houses look the same. Life is meaningless. Like, she's just deep in it right now. And they don't really, like, dive deeper into that. That's it. It's just like, oh, the kids are funny again. Yeah, the kids are funny again. And I don't really remember a lot of cars from 2004. But was there a minivan that had four across? I thought it was Chevy.

[00:12:25] I thought that was a Chevy Suburban. I didn't think it was a minivan. I thought she was in a Suburban. Maybe. And that's why she had so much room in there. I saw a minivan. But when I see a minivan, you see Suburban. Very well. No, but later, when they all leave the house at the same time, it's definitely a minivan. Okay. But that scene that you see twice in this movie with the red, like a maroon car and a Chevy logo on the front, I kind of thought that was a Suburban. But that's not the van. But that would have four across. Now I have thoughts.

[00:12:53] Because the van in her driveway is a different color. Different car. Different mom. Different mom. Different mom. Okay. So, yeah. The red car is not Daniel's mom. The red car is a Suburban, and then Daniel's mom drives a van. I'm pretty confident. We did it. We can do it. Keep going. I'll look it up on the D+. No big deal. On the D+. On the D+. For D-com. Yeah. It's interesting that this movie starts off with not Britney's mom. Yeah. That is a little bit of a... Yeah. So that's why we don't get the midlife crisis.

[00:13:23] It's a different... She is all movies. She's really just in a dark corner somewhere. That movie's coming out next week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I had to go to the movie, though. It's tough. It's directed by David Fincher. It's a different thing all day. All these girls are on the soccer team together, and they all get to Britney's house once the mom finds it in the midst of all the other houses that look the same. Tries to drop her off at her house. Yes. Like, hey, this is your house. And they're like, no, it's not. Yeah. But they all run into her house to see the new... Because it's four o'clock. It's four o'clock. They're welcome.

[00:13:50] And they all run in to see Jordan Cahill's new music video, and they love it. There you go. It is a Suburban. It's a Suburban, everybody. So that's a big-time vehicle. Big-time vehicle. It's Jordan Cahill's... Just want to make sure 20 years ago they were sitting safely. I will say that they probably are almost assuredly not following the directions of the vehicle or the safety regulations by sitting four across. But it is a Suburban, which would have the room for it. Hands are tied. Got it, got it. Jordan Cahill's new music video is premiering. They all run inside.

[00:14:20] They dance to it. They knock the couch over. It's a whole thing. And Brittany wants to be a little pop star herself. She's writing her own angsty songs, much to her mom's concern. Mom is like, are you not happy? And Brittany's like, it's just songwriting, Mom. And her sister's annoyed because her sister's trying to solve all the world's math problems and science problems. Yeah. And she can't concentrate with the guitar strumming. That's right. Yeah.

[00:14:48] She has an older sister who you know is a nerd because glasses. Nerd because glasses. Disney Channel writes the rules. I don't. That's right. Her hair is up. She's wearing glasses. She's wearing a button down. Her path in life is- She's waiting for Freddie Prinze to show up. Yeah. You know that she's no nonsense. It's not the richer playing. That's the whole thing. Yes. And she also has an older brother who- Younger brother. I'm sorry, younger brother who throughout this movie is hiding in her room listening in on the conversation. And it's as bad as it sounds. Yeah. It's not great.

[00:15:13] So she is excited to find out that Jordan is coming to town to film his next music video. She can't believe it. And the whole thing is like, we live in the suburbs. Nothing ever happens in our town. It's a whole thing. So we're very excited to find this out. What? Nothing. Oh. You guys like looked at each other. Oh, did you hear something? Yeah. So she is excited. We cracked the case.

[00:15:40] So she goes to school and a new girl walks in in slow motion. She is clearly very cool. You can tell by the slow motion. Her name is Natasha and she claims she doesn't know who Jordan Cahill is. Yeah. She doesn't know. She claims she doesn't know. Well, she's been living in Europe. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, whatever. It's not a big deal. Your American pop stars are. Whatever. And once Brittany hears that she's been living in Europe, now I need to be your best friend.

[00:16:10] That's right. And it's immediate. She is wearing her hair up in a ponytail like all of her friends. And Natasha has her hair down. And as soon as her friends and Natasha walk away, Brittany rips the ponytail out. And she's like. Which is real quick. This movie's real quick. But that scene, like. She's like, all right, I got it. You think it would take her a day or so. Nope. Immediately I have to copy. Maybe she goes home at night and she. Copy that girl style. In Brittany's defense, Natasha did walk in in slow motion. Is there anything you guys love just to be, like, hang out with people?

[00:16:39] Like, is there any time you were like, yeah, I really like this thing? And then it was just like, no, I really, I actually don't like this thing. I don't know why I was trying to like this thing. It was just the people. Not to that degree. Is there anything you ever did like that? That's a good question. That's a good question. I mean, I'm sure. I mean, I don't think I've ever adopted something as my entire personality just to fit in. No, no, no. But like just something where it's like all my friends are into this thing. Probably Christian rap. For me, I can tell you mine is as crazy as that. Like Christian rap's bad.

[00:17:09] I mean, aside from grits. But I don't really like rap in general. But there was a time where in the youth group space, Christian rap was all you needed. That's exactly right. Give me some Lecrae, all that stuff. And I didn't like it, but you had to like it. And so there's nothing you could do about it. What were you going to say, Dan? I think mine was pro wrestling. There was like a year and a half span where I was into WC2. WCW, during the WCW, WWF.

[00:17:39] And by the time I was like near the peak of that, I thought I honestly did like it. But then when I stopped watching it, I immediately didn't care. Like, oh my goodness, this is because all my friends at school were talking about what happened. That's why I never once actually would have watched it, nor did I care. It just wasn't for me. But I did get invested in it. Like I did. And it was fun to hang out with all my boys and watch it as an eighth, ninth grader. But let's go. Yeah.

[00:18:09] That would be mine. That immediately came to mind for me. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. You can't think of anything? No. Yeah. Fair. You're so true to yourself. True to your school. Yeah. I mean, I think for most of my childhood, I was just always reading books and I didn't really care about the friend side of it until middle school. So, you know, at that point, I was just the girl who read books. Yeah. Still am. Still am. Yeah. True to myself.

[00:18:35] Brittany's mom is trying to save this old house and it's going to be a bigger part of this movie. And that's why I mentioned it here. But they introduced it. Yeah. Yeah. She is. She's excited. Brittany's excited that Natasha might be interested in being her friend. But when they go to hang out later, she's embarrassed that her whole room is full of Jordan Cahill posters. So she runs in and she takes them all down. It's the whole thing. And she just wants to play it cool. She's like, Natasha, let's hang out in my room. But can you talk to my mom for a solid 20 minutes? Yeah. Of course.

[00:19:05] It's no big deal. It's no big deal. So the Jordan Cahill music video is playing and Brittany's like, wouldn't it be crazy if he just went down there and watched and like did the whole thing? Just like pretended. Yeah. And just pretended. We aren't, but we could pretend. Yeah. And Natasha's like, yeah, let's go down there. It's going to be fun. So at the shoot, it's clear that Jordan Cahill's not very happy. He doesn't want to sing these cookie cutter songs. He's an artist. He wants to sing his own lyrics. So he decides, you know what? I just need some more time. We're going to bail on this.

[00:19:34] And he gives his assistant, I guess, Eddie. His assistant, best friend. Best friend. Not on the payroll yet, but following him around anyway. Yes. His best buddy, Eddie, his phone and is like, Eddie, all of my song files are on this phone. I need you to put them on a disc for me. Classic 2004 problem. Got to burn it on a disc. Burn it on a disc. Hands are tied. So on his way out, Eddie has... Put a sheet on that door. Yeah.

[00:20:03] Eddie has the bag and the phone is in it. And on his way out, Brittany, who had tripped over herself, is now on the ground. And he trips over her. I thought they bumped into each other. I think she was already on the ground. I don't recall. Take it to the D+. Dan? I don't recall one or the other. Take it to the D+. However it happens, whether it's bumping or tripping or whatever, they...

[00:20:31] I just don't want anybody to have to edit the episode. That's all. Stuff has now been sent out. Stuff has now been thrown all over the place. So they get their stuff. That's our concern. And unfortunately, in a scurry, he grabs her phone instead of his phone. Classic giant silver pop star phone versus small pink teenage girl cell phone. Yeah, it's an easy mistake to make. It's an easy mistake. So easy to grab the bright pink phone. And so they go their own way.

[00:21:00] And she realizes quickly that she doesn't have her phone. She has this random silver phone, but she doesn't know that it belongs to Jordan Cahill in this moment. She just thinks it belongs to that groupie. Yeah, that groupie that's kind of... That bump in the door. Yes. And so they go to the Swanky Hotel by the freeway to get it back because that's where Jordan Cahill is staying, the Swanky Hotel by the freeway. And at first, they don't believe him. But then Eddie realizes that the...

[00:21:29] Like, hey, we have your phone. Is it a bump in? Somebody knocked her over. Okay. So there's a security guy that comes out and knocks her, literally knocks her over. And then he trips over her. So she didn't just fall over herself. So there was a bump. There was a bump. There was a bump. There was a proper bump. There was a proper bump. So we were both right. We were both right. That's a good way to think of it. Yes. So... I'm good. They call... It was a left-handed handshake. I didn't want any part of it. If you had gone right-handed, I'd have been in.

[00:22:00] Somehow, Eddie hadn't realized that the phone had been swapped. So when they get to call up, they're like, hey, someone's here. They think they have your phone or whatever. You know, back in 2004 when you weren't always holding out your phone. Yes. But then he does realize it. Years later. Years. Years. Like, it's so long. Yes. In between checking your phone. It's crazy. Yes. But he runs down to try to catch them before they leave, but he doesn't make it. So now there's a bit of a situation. So he calls the phone, Jordan Cahill's phone that they have, to try to convince him to meet up. But Madonna calls. Oh, Madonna.

[00:22:30] And they just scream at her. They just scream at Madonna. They hang up on Eddie to talk to Madonna. To talk. Yeah. Yeah. He calls... They're shocked when Madonna hangs up after all the screaming. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Guys, you got to play it cool if you get to talk to Madonna. Rule one, right? That's rule number one. If you ever get a pop star's phone and Madonna calls, you got to play it cool. You got to play it cool. He called... Remember that story that guy told that driver that we had? About Cher? About Cher. Yeah. Yeah. And the water? And the water. And he got her out of the car.

[00:22:59] I don't believe it for a second. She wanted this specific type of... It was LaCroix. LaCroix. Before LaCroix was nationwide. Yes. It was only in California. Yeah. He's a limo driver in New York City. He has Cher. She asked for a specific flavor of LaCroix that did not have yet. According to him, she gets mad at him. He pulls the car over, makes her get out of the car, and then says, listen, B-word, to Cher. And then she got back in the car.

[00:23:28] I don't for a second believe this guy. But he also said he drove Frank Sinatra. And Frank Sinatra threw a bunch of money at him. A huge tip from Frank Sinatra. So it'd be crazier for him to make these stories up, so he has that going for him. But I can't imagine getting Cher out of a limo to color the B-word and it going well. I can't. Basically, the moral of the story is she remembered her place and decided to quiet down and get back in the car.

[00:23:58] And then he would become a limo driver of the stars, like Brain and Dan. That's exactly right. That's how he's on the Brain and Dan beat, is he called Cher a B-word. That's right. Moral of the story is make sure you get the right limo. That's right. If you're ever in that situation. So is this why when we're driving to lunch, you make me get out of the car so you can call me a B-word? I opened your door for you first, though. Right? That's true. Well, that's only because of the child lock.

[00:24:26] No, it's because I always open door for them Bs. You know what I mean? That's exactly right, Dan. You said it, pal. And Lee, go ahead and grab that clip. So he calls back. Bs can't open their own doors. You kidding me right now? I refuse to open my own door. Even when I'm in the front seat and it's not child lock, Dan has to come around and get my door. That's right. You kind of do this thing where you just kind of go like this. I can't do it. Until someone finally gets around.

[00:24:54] Like, even though I was the last one into the office this morning, I stood in the hallway until you guys came out. It gets awkward. And we just have to know. It gets awkward. We just have to know. She doesn't knock. I don't let you know. Like, you should just. She will start coughing loudly if you don't come out there in a few minutes. Is that Aaron? That's it. Must be Aaron. Must be Aaron. Must be Aaron. She gets lightheaded sometimes. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Depending on how long it takes them to do. She's fainted once. Yeah. But I stay true to who I am. That's right.

[00:25:23] And I will not open a door. She reads a book in the process. Eddie calls him back again. Demands to speak. Sorry. What? Oh, yes. Eddie calls them. When? Eddie calls them back to try to get the phone. It's at this point in time that they realize after the Madonna call, this is Jordan's phone. And so they say, we need to talk to Jordan. Eddie refuses because he doesn't want Jordan to know that he lost the phone because he had one job. Yeah. He's hoping to someday get paid.

[00:25:52] And if he does Jordan know he lost the phone, he might get fired from his free job. Yes. So they're not going to just roll over and give the phone. They're going to do some goofs first. So they use the phone to call ahead to have the hairdresser cut his hair, thinking that it wouldn't actually happen, but it does happen. And that's a whole thing. And they also make up like a fun rider. Like he only wants to eat raisins and you can't look him in the eye. Yeah. That could have been a fun delish. Just a bowl of raisins. It could have been. Bowl of raisins.

[00:26:21] The good stuff. I don't mind raisins. And I would have just been like, here's some raisins. That's right. Like that doesn't happen every day around here. She pulled that clip. Yeah. While you guys are opening the door, I also can't look at you. It's a weird workplace, but it's above board. It works for us. I mean, there is true story. One time I was trying to get into the office and I had to call Dan who was across town and he had to drive back to open the door for me. So that actually did happen.

[00:26:52] Yeah. It's true. Brian locked me out. Brian catching strays out here from Decom Descendants. Brian would hate for something to get stolen. Well, listen, this episode is going to air on the same day as an interview over on Deck the Hallmark where Brian gets a lot of praise from the interviewee. So we got to even that out. We don't want to. Whenever I hear that, I just immediately think less of the guests too. I'm just like, what about Brian? Yeah. So we're just trying to keep the universe in balance.

[00:27:22] Yeah, exactly right. Jordan ends up liking his haircuts. And so Brittany and Natasha then keep making more changes such as his wardrobe. They get him some dogs, which we don't really see again, but he does get dogs. And Jordan is now finding himself a lot happier, which is interesting. And he's so proud of Eddie for knowing what he needed. Thanks for making all these changes. Yeah. Yeah. Still not going to pay you. We'll see how the rest of the trip goes. And he's still not wanting his phone back, obviously.

[00:27:52] That'd be crazy. Brittany is now inspired to continue really focusing on her songs and her lyrics. Lyrics we don't get to see because they blur them out for some reason on Disney+. Her brother cracks the phone and that helps her be inspired for her lyrics too. She sees his lyrics. Yes. That's right. So that also helps. This is also, I remember seeing this when it came out and the brother cracks the phone

[00:28:18] and he just says, anyone over the age of 14 just uses the factory setting, like the factory password. Which is so crazy. And I remember at like 13 years old being like, is that all it takes to hack something? Is this just knowing the factory password? I will say this. And I was so impressed. And then like a year later, I was like, that's not how that works. That's not true at all. No. But I will say this. In 2004, I didn't, my phone wasn't password protected until probably 2008 or 9.

[00:28:45] So definitely a feature that was not used nearly as often. Right. But as a principal of a middle and high school, when you confiscated middle schoolers phones, the password was almost always their birthday. Like almost always their birthday. Were you trying to for sure? For middle schoolers. Were you trying to hack into? I wasn't. However. That's not how it's playing here, Dan. However, what I had someone in the office go, man, if only we could get into these phones.

[00:29:14] And I was like, I bet they're all their birthday. And they were like, no. And I was like, yeah, they are. And I had a drawer full of phones and like eight of 10 of these phones birthday every time. Like crazy. Well, when you think about it, like what other combination of numbers do middle schoolers know? That's right. Like, well, there's another popular one with middle school boys. 6969. They think that's a riot. What about 8008?

[00:29:43] I went to 8008. 8008. I didn't. I don't know if that one ever worked. But I didn't try. I didn't keep trying it. But so one day I tried it. That's boob, everybody. It's boob. It's boob. It's funny. It's boob. Hilarious. If you do it, if you put it in your calculator and you flip it, it looks like if you do 58008, it looks like boobs. And that's funny. Yeah. It's hilarious. If you flip the calculator. You could add some other numbers, like some sevens and fours, and it would be like, hello, boobs. I remember that one being a popular one. Full screen.

[00:30:13] The common thing that all boys say, hello, boobs. It's like Newman just came with 20 Seinfeld. Hello, boobs. Still stuck in the suburbs. Yeah. No. So she basically threatens Eddie. Leave us a rating review if your phone password is. Boo. Boo. Yeah.

[00:30:40] So she basically threatens Eddie until she gets to meet up with Jordan and have him play the old house. And Eddie's kind of up against it. And I guess kind of agrees to it. And so that's when she gets her ice cream sundae because of the, uh, uh, yeah, it's not even like she just makes her demand. And then just before hearing back from Eddie, she tells everyone Jordan's going to be at the rally. Yes.

[00:31:09] Um, and word gets out that the parents ask any questions of how do you, how do you know, Jordan? How did you know? They just go straight forward, full throttle with the planning. I also will say they, the reason that Jordan Cahill performing there is going to save the house per the mom and dad is because after he performs there, it will be a historical landmark and they can't tear it down. That's a line set in this movie. That's right. That's crazy.

[00:31:40] Well, you don't know how big of a deal with Jordan Cahill. Whereas I just think they're going to have everyone at the rally sign up a petition to make it a historical landmark. Aaron, that's one of the dumbest things you've ever said. Yeah. But even so, they have 20 people there. Can't make that a plot point. 20 people signing a petition. Okay. Something happened. It's history. It's history. All the credit for everything and all of Jordan's changes. And Natasha is just like, it's my idea.

[00:32:10] And Natasha is now feeling left out and feeling hurt by this. So when Brittany goes over to talk to Natasha after finding out that Penelope breaks up with Jordan, she... Real quick about the breakup scene. She's eating the giant banana split sundae when she finds... Her sister says, like, I hope he can still perform, even though he's really sad because Penelope just broke up with him.

[00:32:38] So she runs away to go, like, call our friends and confirm this news. Her brother swoops in to eat the banana sundae because free ice cream. Why not? And the parents are like, you did nothing to earn this. Dad takes it and puts it in the cabinet. Yeah. Puts it in the cabinet. And it is already, like, half melted. When he puts it in the cabinet, he puts banana split in cabinet. And when he takes it, it doesn't look the same as when it was on the counter. That's right. It's great.

[00:33:07] It's a goof. It's a double goof. So when Brittany goes over to talk to Natasha, they get in a big argument and they say some things that they might regret, to say the least. And it turns out that Natasha was lying about everything, about, you know, Europe and all that. He's in Buffalo. Yeah. She's not in Europe. She hasn't been living in Europe. That's right. So they're not friends again and they're never going to talk. Classic middle school girl. That's right. For at least a couple hours. Yeah.

[00:33:36] You got to think about it. Classic middle school girl. So she's sad and Eddie tells her that, you know, this has to end now and that Jordan knows what's going on. And Jordan now has her phone and he calls Brittany and they end up talking about how amazing his real lyrics are. And she's like, hey, I hacked your phone, but it was all good because you're amazing. And he says, he says, it doesn't even matter. I don't even want to be in the music business anymore.

[00:34:06] Apparently, a fun fact about Jordan Cahill's real phone that Brittany has, it has a tracker. The Palm Trio? Yeah. If all these high end phones, they have trackers. And so. If Eddie had just known that, this movie would have been 10 minutes. So the manager then finds that out and is like, I'm going to, we got it. We're just going to get a few henchmen. He's like, he's like, hey, get in the car. I activated the GPS on his phone. We're going to go get it. Good to go. Brittany and Natasha make up, you know, they hug and whatnot.

[00:34:33] And then they go to find Jordan, which they end up finding as he's running away from a group of super fans. In slow motion. In slow motion. It's a whole thing. It's like a light jog. Yeah. A light jog is being kind to how fast he is running. Maybe. And the crowd is just so funny because they are right behind him. Yeah. And you can tell that they were told act like you can't catch him. So there's just one girl acting her heart out. Yeah. And if she had just like extended her hands would have touched him, but she can't. So she's like, oh no.

[00:35:03] And he's running at maybe one and a half miles an hour, two miles an hour. Like it's not a right. I could probably power walk that. Yeah. Easily. It's a great. Yeah. A scene that I thought when I was 13, I was like, look at all those fans chasing him. And then at 34, I was like. This is bad. Um, so they agree to swap. There's five people in that crowd. Yeah. Yeah. They agree to swap phones back, but not before Brittany gets all of the stuff off.

[00:35:30] They do a thing where they like touch phones and that gets everything that she needs. Which is. A great feature in 2013 or 14. Which is a great feature that I, the Palm Trio could do. Really? Really? I remember my, my parents both had Palm Pilots and they could share. Amazing. They would sync only with each other. Like you could. Yeah. Transfer files. But she didn't have that. No way. But she has like a pink Nokia phone. Yeah. Which she's played Snake and made calls. And that was like T9 word touch. Made calls on a good day. How cool is Snake? Snake was freaking awesome.

[00:36:00] And T9 texting. Just bring me back. Yeah. I don't really know what happens from here. But she does a thing that sends out the lyrics to everyone. But via a phone call. It's like YouTube putting their album on the iPhones pre without telling you. He's like, oh, so you sent it to everyone. And she was like, no, the next best thing. So what she being a middle school girl, this is what I believe happened. She sent the real lyrics to her friends who then spent it there.

[00:36:29] Like it was like a middle school girl phone tree. But somehow the manager of Jordan Cahill is listening to the song with the new lyrics in it. Yeah. So I don't know if they sent out. So somehow it went from middle school girl phone tree to Cahill manager, new song intact. It went viral. Went viral. In a sense. Well, he's like reading. I wonder if the music was put in for. But the song's playing. The song's playing with the new lyrics. However it happens. It happens. It happens.

[00:37:01] And so they then throw his leave his phone behind, which throws off the tracking that lets them get to the rally. They leave the bike and the phone behind. That's right. So that clearly the bad guys would assume they were in the giant metal pipe. They get to the rally and they're about to play. The manager tells Eddie, hey, you got to go up there and stop. You got to stop. If you stop him, maybe we'll start paying you for this.

[00:37:27] But once Eddie realizes that this is what his friend really wants to do, he supports him. He goes out and announces. Here's Jordan Cahill. Jordan gives a speech. Yeah. And I couldn't tell you at all what he talked about, but he gives a speech and then he plays. I would assume it's something about like being true to you. Yeah. And how cool old houses are. Yeah. This was going to be historical. So he then plays the song, but with his own lyrics. Full band. Full band. And the acoustics are amazing. They love it.

[00:37:55] Everybody is a big fan. He does sound a little bit like Drew Seely. A little bit. A little bit like Drew Seely. A little bit. It sounded also similar to the singer from. Yeah. Zach Efron. But only in high school music. Troy Bolt. He put some respect on there. Specifically high school music is a cool one. So fast forward, Brittany and her friends are on the way back from soccer again.

[00:38:23] She is on the phone talking to Jordan Cahill. Mom is still depressed. It's above board. Everything's good. It's fine. He's like, hey, you should come. Come to Brooklyn. Come to New York. Hang out with me. Middle school girl? And she's like, I don't have to come to New York because I got everything I need in my cool suburbs. They make it to the house. They turn on new music video. Jordan Cahill has been replaced by Eddie. And I have to be honest with you. I don't know why. I think it was for their dance. They're dancing in the background.

[00:38:52] And so Jordan Cahill probably was like, stick around and let them do this with him singing. But why did they replace Jordan Cahill with Eddie? I think it was like a favor. I just thought of it like he was like, hey. I assume that he wanted to go off and be like a serious singer. He doesn't want to be a musician. Or a pop star. Eddie is the new Jordan. Yeah. I think the label wanted a person that would just do whatever they said. And Eddie was like, yeah. But Eddie didn't do the thing. Eddie didn't stop him from doing it. It was like, hey, if you stop him from going up there and singing, you've got a future here, kid.

[00:39:22] Also, Eddie, nothing about Eddie is pop star. I know. It was very confusing because their whole thing was, Eddie, if you stop him from singing, you have a future. And not only did he not do that, he went out and he introduced Jordan Cahill. Yeah, he did the opposite in every way. And he got rewarded by becoming a pop star. Duh. I mean, I just like to think that Jordan went on to have such a successful career that, yeah, they just like, he was able to save Eddie's career. I don't know. Everything's coming up. It's all above board. It's all above board. And that is stuck in the suburbs, everybody. Let's do this. Let's take a break.

[00:39:51] Let's come back and we will break it down some more and we'll make our list and whatnot here on Decom Descendants. Man, that's going to get us the 300. Welcome back. Na, na, na, na, na. Stuck? Stuck in the suburbs. Have you ever been stuck anywhere, Dan? I was stuck in the Newark airport for 12 hours and I thought it was the end of my existence.

[00:40:20] I was just a graduated high school and I was like, this is the worst. Yeah, that's a long time. And in retrospect, instead of a 17-year-old, as a 41-year-old, 12 hours into Newark airport doesn't sound that bad anymore. Like, you know, maybe go to the bar, watch a couple movies. Like, I'm down. Yeah. Yeah. I would find a deserted gate. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:40:50] Spread myself out across a couple of chairs. Yeah. Charge my phone. Yeah. Watch a few movies. Maybe take a little snooze. A little snooze. Maybe go to the Texas Roadhouse or Longhorn or whatever. It's like that. Oh, now you're talking. Hey, the airport steakhouse is always different. Me and you and Panda, Longhorn Steakhouse, what was that, 9.45 in the morning, full steak dinners. Yeah. So it's just, I mean, you only live once. When in Rome. When in Rome. And they're not on the same scale, but also early in the morning. Smash burgers. Yeah. At the airport. Yeah.

[00:41:20] The airport is a magical place where everything costs $100, but there are no rules. So just live it up. You pay for the no rules. But that was way earlier than our steak dinner. I think that was pre-8 a.m. That we did smash burgers. It was very early. And it was clutch. So it's time for Overtime. It is where we talk about how this movie aged over time. We've got some Letterboxd reviews, if you would like them. Love it. Abby says two stars. The flashback montage that literally only covered the two days the girls had been friends. Iconic. Oh, man.

[00:41:50] I can't believe we didn't mention that in the com chat. I just. Well, there's that flashback. And then there's the flashback of all the events that happened an hour ago. Yeah. It's a double flashback situation. Soraya says one and a half star. Not Taryn from SNL playing a hot teen idol when Drew Seeley was right there playing an MF front desk clerk. Drew Seeley gets screwed by the Disney channel. Yeah, he does. I would love to interview him just to see how he keeps coming back for more of this. He did go on the High School Musical tour, though.

[00:42:20] Zac Efron wasn't available. Remember that? That's what? No. It happened. Ian. Is there a place that I could tune in to listen for facts like this? If there was only. But I only want a little bit at a time. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want a whole pod. Just like a minute. Just like a minute. Every day. Like a quick burst of like to start my day. It's a decom daily minute. Man. I mean, I think it could still go on a couple. As you're brushing your teeth in the morning, you just turn on the DDM. Yeah, the DDM. And you just listen. You listen.

[00:42:50] And you're like, huh. And then you stop brushing your teeth. And I think as long as it's like single digit minutes. I think it still can. So the decom daily minute could be nine minutes long? It could be. Hard out. If you need to. Hard out. If it's a big day. You save it. If it's a big day, you got to talk about it. Whatever. Ian says three and a half stars. Was going to give this three stars. And then I remembered I gave the same rating to La La Land. Which is funny. Funny. So Stuck in the suburbs is better.

[00:43:20] Better than La La Land. Got it. Ari says two and a half stars. I still don't know why Jordan's BFF became the new Jordan Cahill. Fair. It's a weird one. Kells says three and a half stars. Ugly white men being stand is the most accurate part of this movie. Got him. Kelly says half a star. These girls dedicating their whole lives to a man who isn't even good at music. Terry and Killen catching all kinds of strays here.

[00:43:55] Yeah. Of Terry and Killen? Yeah. Like what did you buy him as pop star? Like he doesn't fit the bill of that at all. No. I mean he was probably like because Disney gives me protozoa for three movies and then tries to tell me Jordan Cahill is a pop star. One of these guys is not like the other. No. I mean I didn't really get it. I was appreciative that they cut his hair in the movie. Yeah. But then he stops being a pop star. Yeah. What's crazy is his rise happens with that long hair. No.

[00:44:25] I mean it was a couple years ago that I realized it was Taron Killen. Yeah. Because I saw something probably on like Instagram and I was like thought it was just one of those like fake news. I was like that wasn't Taron Killen. And I looked up and I was like oh no. If only there was a place that could tell you. Yeah. If it's fake news or real news. It is a wild move that Taron Killen is the pop star hunk of this movie. Yes. That is the bit of this. Speaking of which. Especially when Drew Seely was right. Drew Seely is there. Last reviews from Steven who says this is the worst SNL sketch of all time.

[00:44:55] Let's share our thoughts on this movie and how it aged over time. Erin what do you think? You saw it then you've seen it now. Yeah. I am thinking this movie would have been better if it had been an SNL sketch. It's close in length. Just like you know. I'm just going to be thinking about that all day. Yeah. This movie doesn't quite hold up. It's it's one of those iconic ones from when I was a kid. Probably because of Daniel Panabaker and Brenda Song. Yeah.

[00:45:26] And really just resting on the two of them doing some hijinks. The movie is a lot shorter than I remembered. But then also somehow longer than I remembered. Because in watching it realizing. Was this one like 78 minutes? Without the credits it's like 77 or 78 minutes. Yeah. It's very short. And somehow we have three full musical numbers. I think there's four musical numbers and two montages. Yeah. So yeah.

[00:45:53] This movie if you cut that out could have been an SNL sketch. Yeah. Trying to play off Taron Killam as the pop star. Just it doesn't doesn't didn't hold up for me. I'm sure 20 years ago I was just like. Yeah I guess. Sure never. Um. And now I was like there's no there's no world. Where that guy is beloved by thousands. Only thousands. Um.

[00:46:24] Thousands. Maybe. I mean there's only five in that town. So. He's world famous. He's world famous. He's came to this. Is the name of their suburb world? World. No. World famous. Well. Millions and millions. So yeah. I mean. It's still going to be. One that I like remember fondly. But probably not one that I'm going to. Rewatch often. Fair. I think this movie is a. An absolute blast. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

[00:46:53] I think that these two leads. Were just so darn fun together. And I had fun that they were when I was real. I had fun. They had fun. I had fun. Cause they had fun. Of each other. You know. Um. Terrence the weakest link of this movie. And. That's not. That's unfortunate. I think he's played the weakest link host on SNL before. I think that's possible. Um. And I think that he would even look back at this and be like. Yeah. Probably wasn't the best. Uh. For me. Um. But.

[00:47:23] Uh. Aside. Uh. Aside from him. And it's still not. It's not like. Oh. He made the movie bad. It's just like. Now that you realize Drew Seely is right there. Or. You know. Anyone. Protozoa. Bring Protozoa back. I don't know. There were. There were. I think that could have elevated it. But I don't think he took enough away from me to. Not to still have an absolute blast with this movie. Had a really good time. Dan. Yeah. This movie I do think knows what it is. And I think that is a big hurdle to clear. Like Z3.

[00:47:53] The mighty next. Same length movie. Has. They just are there because they. So they don't want to get fined. Yeah. They literally are there. And they're like let's just slap dash a movie together. This movie has a through line. And it is a. A silly slice of summer. Movie for a 10 year old girl. I like. That is the. Like. Ideal demographic for this movie. Bran loved it. No surprise. Can confirm. As a 13 year old girl. That's right. And I think. There's something needs to be said for that. I don't.

[00:48:23] It's not going to be anywhere near my top 10. I think that the. It's a postage stamp of a movie. It could have been an email. It could have been a short. It is. Without all those montages. And. And. Full length musical numbers. Well under an hour run time. It doesn't hold up. In the slightest. But it is kind of fun to laugh at. Knowing. How serious. A certain demographic took this movie. 21 years ago. And. And not. Not laughing at.

[00:48:52] The viewer. Laughing at the fact that. I think now. A 13 year old. A girl. Would not watch this. On Disney. Like. I don't think 13 year olds. Are flocking to Disney. For their movies. On opening night anymore. Are they. Like. I would love to hear the demographic. For the descendants. Viewer ratings. Like what's. Like. I bet it would skew younger. That's a guess on my part. But like. I'd be. I'd be curious to look. Like. Or a new property. Maybe the. 13, 14. Maybe the tweens. And the teenagers. Are still hanging out.

[00:49:22] Was their childhood. But a new. D. Come. Release now. I don't think. That. That. Teenage. Boys and girls. Are circling their calendar. For something like this anymore. I think that was a. A product of the time. And it is fun to look back at it. As a time capsule. Does it. I mean. And I do remember. Like planning my evening. Like the movie started at 8. And I would make sure. Let's watch. A Disney Channel movie. You guys crushed that. It was so good. I remember like.

[00:49:52] That's going to be a theme song for me. And then there was a small period of time. Where they moved the movie to 9. Ooh. And I was angry. Yeah. That's tough. I remember that. That's crazy. But yeah. It was definitely like. Appointment view. Like I was like. Yeah. This is happening. I have to be there. Like you know. Because they would advertise. Yeah. They'd go behind the scenes. I mean I'm just thinking like. In July. Like I remember some of the ABC family movies. That may as well have been DCOM's. Like Summertime Switch. With Roger Strong. Like. Do you remember that movie Brian? I don't. I do.

[00:50:22] I do remember. My day with the president's daughter. So like. My day. With the president's daughter. I was already too old for that. My day. With her. Cool. This movie is where these two kids switch. One of them is poor. One of them is rich. And they switch. It's called Summertime Switch. It is. I remember. Like during the summer. It's super hot outside. It's you know. It's 100 degrees in South Carolina. And in the evening. Watching this movie. Which I guarantee you. Doesn't hold up at all. And just being like. I'm a. I'm a 12. I don't know how old I was.

[00:50:52] 12, 13. And being like. This was a fun diversion. I'm all in on this. And. If you look back at this movie. Through those lenses. I can see completely how it worked. No. Does it hold up now? Absolutely not. But you've got some. A lot of people who have gone on to act. You know. Daniel Panabaker. We see. Seen on Hallmark. Taron Killam. Obviously. He was in Hamilton. He was on SNL. He's currently in High Potential. Like. You get to see this. And it is a clear slice of life. Summertime.

[00:51:21] If you were there. And were in that age bracket. This made sense kind of movie. And so I'm not mad at it. But is it good? No. It's not good. Does it age well? Absolutely not. But I can see why it worked at the time. Whereas Z3. I can't imagine that working at any time at all. So. That's where I land on it. You know what I mean, Brian? You think Macaulay Culkin's seen it? Has seen. Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. I think so. I think there's definitely a period of their relationship where they.

[00:51:50] If they had not already seen each other's work. I like to think that. Yeah. I like to think that. Summertime switch in 1994 comedy. You guys were. You know. Both under five respectively. And I was. How old was Ryder in that? I was 10 or 11 in that movie. There they are right there. Look at this. There they are. Look at this. This young Ryder strong. Is that. I mean. Yeah. Look at. There he is. Man. Oh, he's a little baby. Little baby. That's like season one Ryder right there. Yeah. Young Ryder strong. Little baby Ryder. On ABC. So there you go.

[00:52:20] Shout out. Shout out. Shout out Ryder strong. Shout out. Let's do our list. Let's make our list. Check it twice. Where did this movie end up? And then how did it affect our top 10 and all that good stuff? Aaron? The guy that played opposite Ryder strong summertime switch was young Simba in the Lion King. Ooh. Jason Weaver. How about that? True story. There you go. Go ahead. Whenever you're ready. Ann was in drumline. Sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Don't leave a drumline. Yeah. One band, one sound. Come on. Come on. Um.

[00:52:51] So stuck in the suburbs is not going to be in my top 10. I know. Shocker. After. I mean, all the things you said are correct. But it's not a top 10. It's just not a top 10 movie. It hit at the time. I think the top 10 has to age well. Yes. That's a personal belief of mine. Like it's not for brand, but it is for me. That's right. For me, the top 10 has to age well. And I was also thinking like while you were talking about how Disney did a much better job of infiltrating every aspect of my life as a teenage girl.

[00:53:21] Um, because you would watch the shows and then during the shows they would be advertising for their new movies. And then of course you'd be like, yeah, I'm tuning in for the new movie. And you know, and then, then there'd be a music video playing during a commercial of Hilary Duff. So you're like, I have to go buy that album. And it was just a much better, like ecosystem. It was my whole world of like, this is what I'm going to watch. It's what I'm going to listen to.

[00:53:45] Um, and I, I just don't know if they quite have that same, cause like Sabrina Carpenter started on Disney, but that same audience that watched her, I mean, I guess now they're older, but you know what I mean? It doesn't quite cross over as easily. Like early Hilary Duff. Yes. I transitioned from Lizzie McGuire to Hilary Duff, but it's, it's harder for like Girl Meets World to go straight into Sabrina Carpenter. Olivia Rodrigo was on Disney channel. Yeah.

[00:54:13] I, so, so like they went off and did their own careers the way they wanted. And I think that's really great. Whereas early Disney had like a control over. Yeah. They exposed, they were so much exposure. Like Miley Cyrus. Like you had no choice but to love all of those people by the time that she left. You know, Miley's early career, very Disney heavy. Yeah. Um, until she was able to fulfill that contract and go and perform the way she wanted to. And so I like. Had a party in the U S. Yeah.

[00:54:40] I would submit that, that the people that make it now out of Disney are just talented. Whereas back then they were crafted and curated. Literally anybody who was on the Disney channel could get a record. That's exactly right. Yeah. And so like when I say things about Hillary Duff that make brand loses mind, I'm not hating on Hillary Duff. I think she has a talent, but she's not nearly as talented across the board as a Sabrina Carpenter. In my opinion, I think Hillary Duff, Raven, Simone, uh, Miley Cyrus.

[00:55:09] These people have bukus of talent, but Disney had so much control that by the time they left, a whole generation was predisposed to love them regardless of what they did. Right. Like Hillary Duff can do no wrong for Brandon Gray. Can't. That's right. And so I, I think that now if Olivia Rodrigo gets out of that and does one Disney thing or whatever, I don't know what Olivia Rodrigo did on Disney, but like. High school musical, the musical, the series. High school. Okay. Yeah.

[00:55:35] So the big time and, and like, I think, I think that is a much more respective of talent than it is of exposure, but maybe that's just me. And I don't know. Show freaking rolled. Okay. The show is awesome. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Uh, where's it going to end up? Yeah. On your list. Who knows? Well, you brought up a real philosophical question. Well, I just, while you were talking, it made me think about, you know, this is good podcasting. This is better than what we normally do here. Yeah. I think.

[00:56:05] Hello boobs long in the past. We're past. Um, so you do it on your calculator. Then you flip it. Hello boobs. And that's how it's like a party trick. Right. And sometimes you would just stop at the hell and be like, I would not. Don't let me into your heathen. I will talk about boobs, but I am not going to joke about hell. Some things you joke about. Some things you don't. Some things you don't. Um, hell no. Come on. Yeah.

[00:56:33] I mean, we'll just have an episode of the decom daily minute where we just discuss Disney's control and how they're slipping. Um, anyway, this movie, I've lost it. It is airing at 23. 23. It's airing at it. It's airing at it. Yeah. Uh, it's going to be right behind double teamed and right ahead. I got to kick it up. Wow. Right in that. Wow. So my top 10 has not changed. Scream team, miracle in lane to get a clue.

[00:57:00] Also, Brenda song, uh, Eddie's million dollar cook off fan with the Megaplex smart house, Johnny tsunami, right on track cadet Kelly and motocross. Right on track. Right on track. And Dan knows, I know exactly what it is. Interestingly enough, uh, Aaron, I also have stuck in the suburbs right behind double teamed, but I have both of those movies higher than you do. Uh, so I have stuck in the suburbs at 16. That's where it's airing.

[00:57:29] It's airing at 16. Uh, my top 10 has also not changed. Uh, 10 is luck of the Irish nine phantom eight full court miracle seven smart house six Eddie's million dollar cook off five cadet Kelly four get a clue. Featuring Brenda song, uh, three motocrossed to Johnny tsunami and number one, the greatest movie of all time. Motocross. Motocross is number one and three. That's crazy. So wildly enough.

[00:57:58] I also have five, six, seven, eight. Yeah. So I also have stuck in the suburbs, suburbs, suburbs, suburbs. I got stuck in the suburbs. It's murderous term. It's a suburbs. Uh, I have stuck in the, I can talk. Are you the host? Do you come daily? What if I made that guy do the decom daily? Charlie decom daily murder. The Jonas brothers. Christmas.

[00:58:23] Uh, so I am stuck in the suburbs very close to double teamed and got to kick it up as well, but I have stuck in the suburbs at 32 on my list. Whoa. 30, 29, 30, 31 are, are double teamed. Gotta kick it up. And even Steven's movie. Those are the three movies that it's near. Um, even Steven's movie number 12. Yeah. So like right on track is a solid track, uh, you know, eight or nine movies ahead of it.

[00:58:52] I have even Steven's at 14. Yeah. God almighty. Uh, but that is a classic. I didn't watch this show and you guys did. And that's fair. I think that's, that's, yeah. I mean that movie does hit differently if you've watched them. Oh, it's different. Fair. More than fair. Chris DeColso Romano. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out. So my top 10 unchanged, uh, Miracle in lane two, full court miracle, scream team, get a clue. Eddie's million dollar cook off. Cadet Kelly, Phantom of the Megaplex. Mom's got a date with a vampire. Johnny tsunami. Best movie by far. Motocross at number one.

[00:59:22] And who's starring in get a clue? Um, I believe that's Lindsay Lohan and Holt. Try again. Lindsay Lohan and Brenda song. I gotta be honest. The movie that is currently percolating in my brain is moving up. The list is Cadet Kelly. That movie. Every time I see it at five, you keep talking about Hillary. I'm like, I know she listened. I, I will submit to you that while I've not seen much of Hillary Duff, I've literally seen her in this and I've seen her in how I met your father and I've heard her music.

[00:59:52] This is the best thing she's ever done. And I think also the rest of the cast. I mean, have you seen Casper meets Wendy? Nope. The rest of the cast in Cadet Kelly is amazing. Including Christy Carlson. She's a little girl. She has a friend who's a ghost. I don't care. I think. She's a witch. This movie might be a top three movie for me by the end. All said and done. It's really good. She's very charismatic in that movie. Unbelievable. Yeah. Unbelievable in this movie. And her dad is great. Why can't I think of his name right now? Gary Cole. Gary Cole is his name. Hello.

[01:00:21] And Christy Carlson Romano. The whole team is great. I really like. I think that movie is going to end up popping ahead of Phantom of the Megaplex and Mom's Got a Date with a Vampire. I think it is. Not ready to pull that trigger yet, but I think that's where I am. You keep praying about it. Okay. Yeah. I would love to rank. Just thinking about like Hillary Duff, Sabrina Carpenter, Olivia Arrigo, Miley Cyrus. I would love to just rank who I think is. The most talented. Yeah. Currently. Not as a child actor, but at what they are right now. Because I think Miley is ahead of Hillary.

[01:00:52] I know. I will say this. Miley Cyrus's music as an adult is miles better than Hillary does. That's the interesting thing about Hillary though is once she kind of left Disney Channel, she didn't really put out much music. I'm sure I've seen other stuff she's in, but I don't remember any of it. You ever see Cheaper Brother Dozen with Steve Brown? Yeah. She is so forgettable in that movie. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Be careful. Be careful, big guy. Are you talking about Ashton Kutcher? Because you'd be correct.

[01:01:19] I think part of my love for her is that she kind of avoided that whole early 2000s teen mess where they all ended up either addicted to some sort of drug or drinking problem. She kind of avoided that whole thing, went off, got married, had kids, and I just was like, all right, cool. She seems like a great person. She did the thing. I want to be very clear. I'm not saying anything she's done is acting with that.

[01:01:44] I hold her in high regard as a role model, but if I'm ranking my Disney Channel stars of who do I think can headline a tour the best. Miley Cyrus has dozens of songs, I think, that are better than anything Hilary Duff has put out song-wise. I don't always- Movie-wise, I'm just looking. I've never seen- These are the things most listed on her credits. I've never seen Cinderella Story. I've never seen Lizzie McGuire movie. I've never seen The Perfect Man. I've never seen Raise Your Voice. I own all those movies. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[01:02:13] I've seen How I Met Your Father. I've never seen Younger. I've never seen The Haunting of Sharon Tate. Oh, I haven't either. I've never seen Meet Your Tooth Fairy. I've never seen- Those are all younger. I've never seen Flock of Dudes. I've never seen- These are music videos now. I don't have much of a primer on Hilary Duff, but Cadet Kelly, she rules in that movie. She's great. Yeah. There you have it. Bray, you want to wrap it up or just sit there in silence? I was just thinking about Hilary Duff's music. Great.

[01:02:44] And how I haven't listened to an album that came out in 2015. Which one? Breathe In, Breathe Out. Oh, I own that one. Okay. I like that one a lot. You like the physical copy of it? Yeah. I was just thinking about the argument- Come back this. The argument about- Miley. Miley headlining is she kept going with it as part of it. And she didn't diversify, and she didn't get into many films. Yeah. She just did music. But I mean, I think there's something to be said for somebody wanting it. Sure. For sure. And I just can't picture Hilary-

[01:03:13] I don't know if Hilary liked doing music. I don't know. But that's the thing. The interesting thing about Sabrina Carpenter, too, is she's been going for 10 years at this point before she really became who she is now. Interesting. There you go. I like her old stuff more. Let's be done with it. Let's- I love that for us. Come on back next week. We're going to go on a cruise. With tigers. It's going to be nuts. Tiger cruise? Tiger cruise. Cool. It's a cruise full of tigers.

[01:03:42] It's a cruise full of tigers. I have the feeling that's not what it is, and it's something crazy you're not telling me. Crazier than tigers on a cruise? No. No. It's an animated feature. It's a precursor to- It's animated? It's a precursor to Life of Pi. Damn it. What could be crazier than a movie about tigers on a cruise? Come back next week. Let's find out. Is it just people named Tiger? Like Tony the Tiger? Hi, I'm Bill Tiger. I'm here for the Tiger cruise. I just want you- Could be Tiger.

[01:04:12] I do want you to know, Dan. The Kansas Cub Scouts. I think you will find the fact that this movie was made to be crazier than a movie about tigers on a cruise. All right. I'm not going to look anything up. Come on back next week for that. Until then. Decom all day. Decom it. Decom Descendants is a Bramble Jam podcast produced in, yeah, that Greenville, the Bramble Jam podcast network studios by Brandon Gray. Hello. To follow us on the socials, go to at Decom Descendants.

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