The Color of Friendship (2000)

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[00:00:29] Oh boy.

[00:00:30] That intro felt longer.

[00:00:31] It felt like we really were bopping there for a bit.

[00:00:34] Wait, it's just so many people.

[00:00:35] Sometimes you, why do you, I was going to ask you before we started but I'll do

[00:00:39] it now.

[00:00:40] What is that?

[00:00:41] It is so yellow.

[00:00:42] It is.

[00:00:43] Is that a Stanley or is that an off-brand?

[00:00:45] It's not.

[00:00:46] It's an off-brand.

[00:00:47] Michael's just got a bunch in and I got it for $2 and it seemed like a good deal.

[00:00:51] Yeah, well Stanley Cup was like $1,000.

[00:00:53] And they, all the kids, all the like sophomores that I teach, every sophomore girl comes

[00:00:58] into first period with a giant Stanley Cup.

[00:01:01] Inevitably it's knocked over and.

[00:01:03] Yeah, no, I don't like that aspect of it because I prefer a water bottle that seals.

[00:01:08] Yes.

[00:01:09] The Stanley I have seals.

[00:01:10] It's a screw, a screw boy.

[00:01:12] Well, I mean like that's just a screw boy.

[00:01:14] So like if it tips over.

[00:01:15] Yeah, you know, you're right.

[00:01:16] Yeah, there's a shell.

[00:01:17] Of course it's.

[00:01:18] But did you pick, was that the only color available?

[00:01:20] No, it was a bunch of spring colors.

[00:01:22] There was like blue, green, pink.

[00:01:24] So altogether they look really fun.

[00:01:27] This looks like a giant banana, like on its own.

[00:01:29] He's giving you a hard time for the color of Cup you chose.

[00:01:32] Yeah, I just, it was sunshiney.

[00:01:33] It is.

[00:01:34] Maybe think of summer and.

[00:01:35] I just hadn't seen it yet.

[00:01:36] And so when you see it for the first time.

[00:01:40] It's a giant banana.

[00:01:41] It's like the most muted.

[00:01:43] It looks like a part of like an Easter collection.

[00:01:45] Yeah, I just, I didn't know the backs.

[00:01:47] I didn't know the backstory.

[00:01:48] Yeah, another back story.

[00:01:49] Well, we received to our studio over the last few weeks several weird Amazon packages.

[00:01:56] Yes.

[00:01:57] One of them was a Stanley cross body.

[00:02:00] What's that?

[00:02:01] So it's a thing that like you almost like a wrap that goes around the Stanley.

[00:02:06] It has a shoulder thing.

[00:02:07] My name is Stanley cross body.

[00:02:09] Stanley cross body.

[00:02:10] And I, when I was like, Oh, I don't have a Stanley's.

[00:02:13] I don't know what to do here.

[00:02:14] But then I have a part time job at Michael's and they got Stanley's in and with my discount,

[00:02:18] it was $2.

[00:02:19] $2 for fake Stanley's for fake Stanley's family.

[00:02:22] And I used the cross body this past weekend with my friends and it was great.

[00:02:28] So it's still like make it to where you can lug your family around without it being a lug your giant cup around.

[00:02:34] There was a pocket for my phone, a pocket for my keys.

[00:02:37] I don't know what to do with the Stanley did to get like, I just like it's not a functional efficient cup for most people.

[00:02:42] I will send you a video.

[00:02:43] I've seen a video on like because they're like working and they made this company marketed it bombed and then and then they

[00:02:52] marketed to like women.

[00:02:54] And here we are.

[00:02:55] It's not.

[00:02:56] I'm not telling you what kind of cup like a Stanley works for me because I'm going to drink 40 ounces of liquid like that.

[00:03:02] But like, it's a disaster in high school.

[00:03:05] No, it's not great for it.

[00:03:06] Like, well, it's not just high school.

[00:03:08] I mean, I know, and everyone's not great for classes because it's going to knock over.

[00:03:12] It's loud.

[00:03:13] It's going to spill.

[00:03:14] It's so top heavy.

[00:03:15] It's the number one water bottle in all my yoga classes is tick to blame.

[00:03:20] It probably doesn't help because I know there was like a rise in like what kind of water are you drinking?

[00:03:25] And people are like doctrine up their waters and their and their thing.

[00:03:28] Water talk, hashtag water talk.

[00:03:32] And I think Stanley's are a big element of the water.

[00:03:35] So yeah, they switched their marketing and they read this, but it's it's an insane thing.

[00:03:39] I don't hot take care.

[00:03:41] Don't think a Stanley is a good water bottle option and effective water.

[00:03:47] If I had to pay more than $2, I would not own one.

[00:03:50] Dude, I can't tell you how many times I was the assistant coach, the girls basketball team.

[00:03:53] I can't tell you how many times I'm sitting on the bench and all of a sudden my feet are in standing water.

[00:03:58] And it's because somebody's top heavy Stanley has fallen and the water slowly leaking out of the straw.

[00:04:04] It's like you can use that if you're on a work site or you have a cup holder to just bring it into your school desk

[00:04:10] or to sit in a folding chair with a Stanley is stupid.

[00:04:14] Well, the good news is if you just leave water on the basketball court, it's totally fine.

[00:04:18] Nothing actually is good for it.

[00:04:20] That's a good for it.

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[00:06:56] delicious.

[00:06:57] Delicious.

[00:06:58] The delicious.

[00:06:59] What is it?

[00:07:00] What is it?

[00:07:01] Is it delicious?

[00:07:02] The delicious part of the show.

[00:07:05] Delicious segment.

[00:07:06] Delicious is on our.

[00:07:08] Today's today's movie is the color of friendship.

[00:07:13] Yeah.

[00:07:14] And I can't wait to see what racist snack you brought

[00:07:17] for us today.

[00:07:18] Aaron, what did you bring that people can maybe enjoy at

[00:07:22] home while they're watching the color of friendship?

[00:07:24] Oh, this is beautiful.

[00:07:25] Yeah.

[00:07:26] I don't know if you can.

[00:07:27] Yeah.

[00:07:28] Let me bring it up.

[00:07:29] Oh.

[00:07:30] It's a homemade black and white cookie.

[00:07:31] It's a homemade black and white cookie.

[00:07:33] So something simple.

[00:07:35] I mean, I'll post the recipe.

[00:07:37] You just, you literally just had it in your hand.

[00:07:42] I know.

[00:07:43] Okay.

[00:07:44] What happened here?

[00:07:45] Was this me?

[00:07:46] No.

[00:07:47] I had a saran wrap around the top to keep it fresh.

[00:07:50] Yeah.

[00:07:51] So it just.

[00:07:52] What does this have to do with the movie though?

[00:07:53] The movie was about black and white coming together.

[00:07:56] Oh, okay.

[00:07:57] Yeah.

[00:07:58] Look at it.

[00:07:59] Interesting.

[00:08:00] This is a perfect example of just look at it.

[00:08:01] I didn't know what to make for this.

[00:08:03] And then the idea popped into my head while I was watching

[00:08:05] it.

[00:08:06] I was kidding with the question about the black and white

[00:08:08] cookie.

[00:08:09] You guys know that right?

[00:08:10] We could have had a nice like, I don't know.

[00:08:12] We learned during the movie that you're a little bit racist.

[00:08:14] Really?

[00:08:15] That's what we learned in this movie.

[00:08:16] You asked if they were brothers.

[00:08:17] I do not.

[00:08:18] I'm going to take a quick bite of this.

[00:08:20] I did not ask that.

[00:08:21] How do you guys usually do that?

[00:08:22] Do you eat right down the middle so you get both?

[00:08:24] The first bite I would just go down the middle.

[00:08:26] Yeah.

[00:08:27] Yeah.

[00:08:28] Both and.

[00:08:29] Yeah.

[00:08:30] No, it popped into my head and then I couldn't get out of

[00:08:31] it because I really enjoy a black and white cookie.

[00:08:33] They were really easy to make, but they're also fairly

[00:08:36] popular at like grocery stores or bakeries.

[00:08:39] The public's here carries them.

[00:08:41] So if you don't feel like making them, you can just

[00:08:43] swing by a store.

[00:08:44] I ate one beforehand.

[00:08:46] It's delicious.

[00:08:47] So good.

[00:08:48] So, so good.

[00:08:49] It's delicious.

[00:08:50] It's delicious.

[00:08:51] It is a delicious segment.

[00:08:52] I made something that Dan likes.

[00:08:54] I love that.

[00:08:55] That's right.

[00:08:56] You did it.

[00:08:57] We cured racism.

[00:08:58] We did it with the black and white cookie.

[00:09:00] That's bold.

[00:09:01] It's a bold.

[00:09:02] Well, Disney thought they cured racism in 19,

[00:09:05] in 2000.

[00:09:06] This did more than that.

[00:09:07] I'll say that much.

[00:09:08] Yes.

[00:09:09] Let's take a quick break.

[00:09:10] We'll come back.

[00:09:11] We'll talk about the color of friendship.

[00:09:12] We'll talk about racism.

[00:09:13] And we'll see how it kind of goes.

[00:09:15] I guess I don't know how it's going to go.

[00:09:17] This one, we'll find out how it will be fun.

[00:09:20] Let's find out.

[00:09:21] We'll be back here on Decom Descendants.

[00:09:23] Cookies really good.

[00:09:34] Welcome back.

[00:09:35] I made a mistake.

[00:09:37] I have another bite.

[00:09:38] You did.

[00:09:39] At least we're not shooting in the mics this week.

[00:09:41] You know what I mean?

[00:09:42] Those are our one-store reviews.

[00:09:44] We would be like at 4.9 without chewing licorice in the mic,

[00:09:49] which was totally a brand thing and not me or air.

[00:09:52] Yeah, it was definitely not either of us.

[00:09:55] That's right.

[00:09:56] We're talking about color of friendship originally aired on the

[00:10:00] Disney Channel February 5th, 2000 and the year 2000.

[00:10:04] Directed during Black History Month.

[00:10:06] Bold.

[00:10:07] Directed by Kevin Hooks.

[00:10:10] Kevin Hooks.

[00:10:11] Kevin Hooks.

[00:10:12] Roo-fi-o.

[00:10:13] That's what I think of every time I think of Hook.

[00:10:16] He is a Black director, so that's nice.

[00:10:19] A nice fact about this movie.

[00:10:21] Starring Carl Lumbly, Penny Johnson, Lindsay Hawn, Shadia Simmons.

[00:10:28] Lindsay Hawn, you mentioned that Lindsay Hawn was like

[00:10:32] something else on Disney Channel?

[00:10:34] She was like something else.

[00:10:36] Yes.

[00:10:37] What was she?

[00:10:38] She was a movie surfer and so they, I don't 100% remember the

[00:10:44] primers of it.

[00:10:45] What I would say it was like an MTV VJ where they kind of like

[00:10:49] interviewed other Disney stars, introduced movies.

[00:10:52] They had a little like before a new movie would start like at

[00:10:56] 8 p.m.

[00:10:57] They would have this little like movie surfer segment and then

[00:11:00] the movie would start at 8.05.

[00:11:02] Movie surfers is a Disney Channel miniseries that appears in

[00:11:05] commercial like form where teenagers go behind the scenes of

[00:11:08] upcoming Disney Channel movies.

[00:11:10] So it started with an era when a new Disney movie came out.

[00:11:14] That's exactly right.

[00:11:15] And there was a whole slew of them, a whole slew of those

[00:11:18] surfers.

[00:11:19] How about that?

[00:11:21] Good for them.

[00:11:22] So many.

[00:11:23] So many.

[00:11:24] So she was just one but now she gets her big chance.

[00:11:26] She's not from South Africa and her South African accent

[00:11:29] excellent in this movie.

[00:11:31] That's right.

[00:11:32] So the movie starts in Washington, DC.

[00:11:34] We see the congressman.

[00:11:36] He's coming home and immediately knows that something is up.

[00:11:39] His family is acting very strange, really going hard,

[00:11:43] trying to get on dad's good side.

[00:11:46] It is because he did at the table.

[00:11:48] It's crazy to even think it's crazy to even think about a

[00:11:52] family sitting down.

[00:11:54] Sometimes I'll get go get pizza for my family and in my head

[00:11:57] I'm just thinking like I want to eat this pizza so bad but

[00:11:59] I know when I get in the house, I've got to hurt everybody

[00:12:02] to the table before I can eat this pizza.

[00:12:05] I can't even imagine walking in the house with pizza and my

[00:12:08] kid is just sitting at the table waiting to eat pizza.

[00:12:11] Well when they get older and they want something from you.

[00:12:13] That's right.

[00:12:14] You never know.

[00:12:15] Then they can accomplish that.

[00:12:16] It would be unbelievable.

[00:12:17] You should show them just the first part of this movie.

[00:12:19] That's it.

[00:12:20] Nothing else.

[00:12:21] Hey when you really want something just go sit at the

[00:12:23] table.

[00:12:24] Or if you only show them the first part you don't even

[00:12:26] have to tell them that.

[00:12:27] I'm waiting for dad to come home.

[00:12:28] That's how I want to be greeted.

[00:12:30] When I walk into the door I want there to be applause while

[00:12:33] you sit at the table waiting for me to eat dinner.

[00:12:37] His daughter Piper has had a bit of an interest in

[00:12:41] learning about other cultures and other people and what

[00:12:44] not and is now begging her parents to let them let

[00:12:49] her hosts an African exchange.

[00:12:52] Right.

[00:12:53] Also wants to learn more about her like her own

[00:12:55] culture.

[00:12:56] And you know that's not super on board with this but

[00:12:59] after some pushing some nudging he finally reluctantly

[00:13:03] agrees.

[00:13:04] He's a busy man doesn't quite want another.

[00:13:07] He has three kids already.

[00:13:08] He's also working on a big speech.

[00:13:10] Big speech.

[00:13:11] She's trying to push an agenda of some sort.

[00:13:13] Yeah well he is trying to work with the South

[00:13:16] African embassy to.

[00:13:17] We don't find that out yet.

[00:13:18] Yes.

[00:13:19] Yes.

[00:13:20] He's big on well he does mention the opening.

[00:13:22] He's big on like apartheid and.

[00:13:24] He's big on it.

[00:13:25] They're planning the Pan African festival in a few weeks.

[00:13:28] Yes.

[00:13:29] Months I don't know how long but they're working on a

[00:13:31] festival.

[00:13:32] He's busy he doesn't have time for course fourth child.

[00:13:35] It's very much like hey I'm not I'm not going to be a

[00:13:39] part of this but if you want to come yeah they can.

[00:13:43] Like she can we can have an exchange to them but it's

[00:13:46] your responsibility.

[00:13:47] I am too busy.

[00:13:49] You know we had by the 1970s we had cured racism

[00:13:52] here in America but not the patriarchy.

[00:13:54] I think that's what we're saying patriarchy alive and

[00:13:56] well but we had we clearly this movie is going to tell

[00:13:59] you anyway that we had cured we had cured the old

[00:14:01] racism bug.

[00:14:02] Right.

[00:14:03] Speaking of South Africa we now go there and we

[00:14:06] meet another family.

[00:14:08] We meet a teenage girl whose name is.

[00:14:11] Yeah her name is.

[00:14:12] How.

[00:14:13] Marie.

[00:14:14] Marie.

[00:14:15] Marie.

[00:14:16] Marie.

[00:14:17] Marie.

[00:14:18] Marie.

[00:14:19] Just Marie.

[00:14:20] Marie.

[00:14:21] Marie.

[00:14:23] ивается.

[00:14:24] Marie

[00:14:37] Lynn Mariaôtte

[00:14:44] Maria andしょ

[00:14:52] Wow.

[00:14:53] That is something.

[00:14:54] Big table with lots and lots of food.

[00:14:55] Yeah, it's her father's house.

[00:14:58] And they're there and-

[00:15:01] It's seamless as that's ever going.

[00:15:03] She wants to be one of these exchange students.

[00:15:07] She hears about this opportunity to go to America.

[00:15:10] Go to America, she's gonna get extra credit.

[00:15:11] Yes, extra credit.

[00:15:14] That detail is unknown to me.

[00:15:16] How much extra credit?

[00:15:17] Yeah, I mean it would be,

[00:15:19] I don't know, I just feel like in high school,

[00:15:21] extra credit doesn't really mean anything

[00:15:22] unless you're failing.

[00:15:25] It would be cool if she was gonna get college credit.

[00:15:28] That would be useful.

[00:15:31] It's weird, yeah.

[00:15:32] Extra credit for that is absurd.

[00:15:36] Now we see a few things going on here.

[00:15:38] One, it becomes pretty clear early on

[00:15:41] that her dad is on the bad team,

[00:15:46] we would say.

[00:15:46] South African police officer.

[00:15:48] Enforcing the greater merits of apartheid,

[00:15:53] where the ban two people have been all relegated

[00:15:56] to secondary separated status.

[00:15:59] Yes, right.

[00:16:00] And we see they're out to dinner

[00:16:02] and we see this guy who drops food on somebody

[00:16:08] and he kicks that guy down

[00:16:10] and she just watches it like,

[00:16:11] there's just another day here in South Africa.

[00:16:13] It's my day at the office.

[00:16:15] But her family finally agrees, okay you can go,

[00:16:18] they're making bets.

[00:16:19] Like I bet you come back in a week,

[00:16:20] you're not gonna make it,

[00:16:21] you're gonna miss us so much.

[00:16:23] Big, big fun, ha ha.

[00:16:24] I mean but get on the family

[00:16:25] for being willing to spend so much money

[00:16:27] to send her there.

[00:16:29] For a week.

[00:16:30] She's only gonna ask.

[00:16:30] It's a week.

[00:16:31] It's a week.

[00:16:32] A week prank him up.

[00:16:33] We have a week prank him up.

[00:16:35] Yeah, it's worth it.

[00:16:36] It's worth the plane ticket to America.

[00:16:39] Well she'll go, she'll realize she hates it,

[00:16:41] she'll come home,

[00:16:42] we'll never have to talk about this again.

[00:16:43] It'll be fun.

[00:16:44] It'll be fun.

[00:16:45] No more talk of going to America.

[00:16:46] Do you have a plane ticket prank him up money?

[00:16:50] Or is that a different status?

[00:16:51] Is that a different status?

[00:16:52] Oh Dan definitely does.

[00:16:53] As long as he's not buying smart watches for children,

[00:16:57] he's got prank him up money.

[00:16:58] Yeah, plane ticket prank him up.

[00:16:59] Independently wealthy.

[00:17:00] That's right.

[00:17:01] That's what they say about me.

[00:17:02] Super rich.

[00:17:03] Dan is really good at making bets

[00:17:05] with unsuspecting people.

[00:17:06] And that's how he reads somebody.

[00:17:07] With people that don't know what double or nothing means.

[00:17:09] That's exactly right.

[00:17:10] Yes.

[00:17:12] Really quickly.

[00:17:14] If I may.

[00:17:16] There's been double or nothing.

[00:17:18] We can move on.

[00:17:18] There's been a situation.

[00:17:21] A few years ago, Dan and I made a bet

[00:17:24] on the Orlando Magic.

[00:17:25] On the Orlando Magic.

[00:17:26] Safest bet in the history of betting.

[00:17:27] For a hatch, I lost that.

[00:17:29] At Lids, I can choose any hat I want.

[00:17:31] Yes.

[00:17:32] I lost that bet.

[00:17:33] He never paid it.

[00:17:33] Your original bet was whoever won got to pick a hat

[00:17:37] and the loser bought it.

[00:17:38] And the other had to pay for it.

[00:17:39] Correct.

[00:17:40] So there was one hat at play.

[00:17:41] That's right.

[00:17:41] He never paid it.

[00:17:43] Don't man's playing this to me.

[00:17:45] I don't need it.

[00:17:46] I'm not to you.

[00:17:47] It's to our viewers who are like,

[00:17:48] what are we talking about?

[00:17:49] He never paid the bet.

[00:17:51] Three, four, I think that was 2019.

[00:17:53] Dan never got his hat from Lids.

[00:17:55] He never paid it.

[00:17:56] And so this year-

[00:17:57] We didn't find ourselves at the mall very often.

[00:17:59] No, oh yes, spin move.

[00:18:00] Bran, Bran then-

[00:18:02] We've been at the mall in the last year.

[00:18:03] So many times.

[00:18:04] Bran at this point,

[00:18:06] this year is very confident.

[00:18:07] Is there room in the schedule today?

[00:18:08] Should we go?

[00:18:09] Very confident in the magic and he wants to bet.

[00:18:13] He said, let's do the same bet again.

[00:18:15] Double or nothing.

[00:18:17] Now that in common parlance,

[00:18:19] I am gonna man's playing this,

[00:18:21] that in common parlance to anyone with half a brain cell

[00:18:25] means you O one,

[00:18:27] if you lose again, it's double or it's nothing.

[00:18:32] Those are the two options.

[00:18:34] Double or nothing.

[00:18:36] You went from minus one hat to zero.

[00:18:39] My understanding here was whoever wins gets two now.

[00:18:46] Because it's the winner.

[00:18:47] Why would I ever bet that?

[00:18:49] The winner gets double,

[00:18:51] loser gets nothing.

[00:18:53] But doesn't the loser always get nothing in every bet?

[00:18:56] Yeah.

[00:18:58] I thought it was a double.

[00:19:00] And I could even see the argument for

[00:19:02] because you're up one,

[00:19:05] double that over to my side now I get one.

[00:19:08] Cause you have to do-

[00:19:09] I can't wait for the magic

[00:19:09] to go on a winning streak in day and O to happen.

[00:19:13] It's gonna be great.

[00:19:13] I would never make that bet in a million years.

[00:19:15] Imagine my surprise when I find out that

[00:19:17] no matter what happens next week,

[00:19:19] I don't get a hat.

[00:19:20] Literally, we're gonna figure it out this week.

[00:19:22] There's no world where you get a hat.

[00:19:24] None.

[00:19:25] Unless you go buy one yourself.

[00:19:26] You don't get a hat.

[00:19:27] That's not how double or nothing works.

[00:19:29] You either owe me two hats,

[00:19:31] which we will pay off next week.

[00:19:33] Literally at the minute we know if they're not six,

[00:19:37] we're going to Lids

[00:19:38] and I'm gonna pick out two hats

[00:19:40] or there's zero hats.

[00:19:42] There's the only two options.

[00:19:45] So just like ask clarifying questions when making bets.

[00:19:48] I think that's all, that's the lesson here is

[00:19:51] don't assume-

[00:19:52] It's been a hot topic in the office today.

[00:19:53] Two doesn't always mean two.

[00:19:56] For some people, for some people when they say double hat

[00:19:59] they mean only for them, the person.

[00:20:01] It doesn't mean-

[00:20:02] I made it out.

[00:20:03] It doesn't mean-

[00:20:04] It's a selfish world, Smith.

[00:20:05] It doesn't even-

[00:20:06] Yeah.

[00:20:07] Like you've somehow manipulated you

[00:20:09] into all over my eye.

[00:20:11] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:20:12] Got it.

[00:20:13] The bum in fact, both of them.

[00:20:15] The other eye was already plenty wooly.

[00:20:17] Yeah.

[00:20:18] It was.

[00:20:19] Yeah, double or nothing.

[00:20:22] So she lands in America

[00:20:25] and everybody is surprised here.

[00:20:28] The-

[00:20:29] The family's like-

[00:20:30] The American family.

[00:20:31] The Delums.

[00:20:32] The Delums are like,

[00:20:35] this is a white girl.

[00:20:36] You white.

[00:20:37] You white.

[00:20:38] And she's like, you black.

[00:20:39] She's like, are you just taking me to the family?

[00:20:42] She's like, very much like-

[00:20:44] She's like, here's my baggage ticket.

[00:20:46] You can do this whole thing.

[00:20:48] She assumes that they are just trying to-

[00:20:50] A family of butlers.

[00:20:52] Yes, a family of butlers.

[00:20:53] So everybody here is confused

[00:20:55] and that goes on for a little bit.

[00:20:58] A lot of like, who are you?

[00:21:00] What, this funny?

[00:21:01] There is a very funny scene

[00:21:03] when she arrives at the house

[00:21:04] and the other kids and neighbor or whatever

[00:21:07] are putting together this welcome ceremony

[00:21:10] and everything is very like,

[00:21:12] classically African.

[00:21:13] Like you tribal drums, all of this stuff.

[00:21:16] They're dressed up in tribal gear.

[00:21:18] And she walks in and they're like-

[00:21:21] Where is she?

[00:21:22] Where is she?

[00:21:23] Which is very funny.

[00:21:24] Who brought the white girl?

[00:21:25] Yes, it's a very, very funny bit.

[00:21:28] And so, then she realizes-

[00:21:31] She realizes that it's a black family

[00:21:33] and she storms up the staircase

[00:21:36] in a house that she does not know

[00:21:37] has never been to hide somewhere in a room

[00:21:41] that she doesn't know anything about.

[00:21:42] That's exactly right.

[00:21:43] Yes.

[00:21:43] And this goes on for some time.

[00:21:46] The family, Piper ends up bringing up

[00:21:49] some fries, a shake, classic American meal

[00:21:53] and it breaks into it because it's her room.

[00:21:57] She knows how.

[00:21:58] She's been locked out many, enough times

[00:22:00] to know how to break back in.

[00:22:01] We've all been there.

[00:22:03] And they talk a little bit

[00:22:06] and you know, it's not going great.

[00:22:08] They clearly still butting heads,

[00:22:10] still some disappointments.

[00:22:13] Later on though,

[00:22:15] Maureen,

[00:22:16] Maori,

[00:22:19] over here's this conversation

[00:22:22] of the disappointment of the family of Piper

[00:22:26] and she comes out and she says-

[00:22:28] Well, she calls her family.

[00:22:29] Yes.

[00:22:31] And she's about to say she wants to come home.

[00:22:33] Right.

[00:22:34] And then her dad's like-

[00:22:34] Oh, you wanna come home?

[00:22:35] Oh, I knew you were gonna come home.

[00:22:36] Break them up!

[00:22:37] And so this 12 year old girl,

[00:22:41] are we saying 12?

[00:22:42] This 14 year old girl

[00:22:44] who has been trained her whole life

[00:22:46] to think that people of color are less than

[00:22:49] and is terrified at the idea

[00:22:51] that she's living in a house with a family of color

[00:22:54] puts all the years of indoctrination

[00:22:58] and systemic hatred aside and goes,

[00:23:00] I'm gonna show my dad.

[00:23:02] That's right.

[00:23:03] I'm gonna show him what's up.

[00:23:04] I think I would too.

[00:23:08] I don't know if I would commit to a full four months,

[00:23:11] but I-

[00:23:12] This is a commitment to a bit

[00:23:14] that is not possible in my estimation.

[00:23:16] Now I will say the one-

[00:23:18] I would double down.

[00:23:19] The one thing that she has-

[00:23:22] On most things, go ahead.

[00:23:23] The one thing that I think

[00:23:25] would maybe make it to where she would stay

[00:23:27] is she would consider her made back home, her friends.

[00:23:32] She says this- Her best friend.

[00:23:33] Her best friend.

[00:23:34] Correct.

[00:23:35] So I think she does-

[00:23:38] It's having to grapple with this whole like,

[00:23:40] hey, I have a best friend who's black,

[00:23:43] but also is only here because she works.

[00:23:46] Easily the best thing this movie does is

[00:23:48] is it does weirdly enough answer years in advance

[00:23:53] like gives a retort to people who think

[00:23:56] I have a friend of color.

[00:23:57] I have a gay friend.

[00:23:58] I have a black friend.

[00:23:59] That means I'm cool with different types of people.

[00:24:02] This movie does offer a like a firm rebuke to that,

[00:24:06] which is great.

[00:24:08] And they do it later in the movie.

[00:24:09] Right, right.

[00:24:10] She clearly has been indoctrinated

[00:24:12] into a system of racism.

[00:24:14] Like she is very much blacks or less than.

[00:24:17] Yeah.

[00:24:17] She believes that-

[00:24:18] But I do think that-

[00:24:19] Is being true.

[00:24:20] Thinking that her, she's her friends

[00:24:24] maybe would make her go,

[00:24:25] okay, I got a friend back home.

[00:24:27] I can do this here.

[00:24:28] I'll show that.

[00:24:29] You know, I think that might have something to do with it.

[00:24:31] It's the best we can give you.

[00:24:32] Anyway, she's staying.

[00:24:33] She's staying y'all.

[00:24:34] She's like to stay.

[00:24:35] And you know, there's a lot of like cultural

[00:24:40] misunderstandings and stuff that she says stuff

[00:24:43] and Piper's like, what do you mean by that?

[00:24:46] There is a scene where a couple of

[00:24:49] couple of hard R N words are thrown out.

[00:24:53] They are.

[00:24:54] That's right.

[00:24:55] And didn't see it coming, but it happens because-

[00:24:58] When the movie aired on the Disney Channel,

[00:25:01] they never said that it was bleeped out.

[00:25:04] Which is a bolt like, cause where else has it got?

[00:25:06] Like where else this is for?

[00:25:07] It's not like-

[00:25:08] I don't know.

[00:25:09] It's not like a theatrical movie that makes the TNT

[00:25:12] and they make some changes.

[00:25:13] No, no.

[00:25:14] This is a movie created for-

[00:25:15] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:25:17] Never a theatrical release by the way.

[00:25:18] Should have been.

[00:25:19] Okay.

[00:25:20] It's a masterpiece.

[00:25:21] You say so.

[00:25:22] Yeah, watching it on Disney Plus shocked me

[00:25:25] because I've seen this movie many times since 2000

[00:25:29] and as a kid just knew there was a bad word

[00:25:34] you could not say to black people,

[00:25:35] but did not know what it was cause it was bleeped out.

[00:25:38] I can't believe they bleeped out

[00:25:40] the person of color saying it.

[00:25:42] That was like, what movie do you think you're showing Disney?

[00:25:46] Like in 2000?

[00:25:46] But then on Disney Plus, there they are.

[00:25:48] I wonder if-

[00:25:49] Put this movie on the air for children

[00:25:51] and then not have the African,

[00:25:53] person of African descent that's of color saving.

[00:25:57] Like why not?

[00:25:59] I, my guess would be,

[00:26:01] I don't know if you watched it when it initially premiered.

[00:26:05] Oh for sure.

[00:26:06] You did.

[00:26:06] Okay.

[00:26:07] Premier night.

[00:26:08] 10 years old.

[00:26:09] I would think, I mean-

[00:26:10] Or caught a rerun short trailer.

[00:26:12] My only guess would be the initial premiere

[00:26:15] they didn't bleep it and they got a bunch of complaints.

[00:26:17] That would be my like, hey, I like-

[00:26:20] Let's see if we can find out.

[00:26:21] Cause like you could see people being like,

[00:26:23] I get what you're doing here,

[00:26:25] but Disney Channel?

[00:26:26] Yeah.

[00:26:27] I can see it being a bit like,

[00:26:29] like for us didn't, we didn't see it coming.

[00:26:32] So I imagine back in 2000s people,

[00:26:36] you know, I'm gonna turn on Disney Channel.

[00:26:37] It's gonna be fun times.

[00:26:39] We're so used to the fun times.

[00:26:40] This one comes out with the hard R's.

[00:26:42] I think that's my thing is that,

[00:26:43] and it's supposed to take place in the 1970s.

[00:26:46] You've already done the work

[00:26:48] of deciding you're making this movie.

[00:26:50] You've already done the hard work of going,

[00:26:52] I know we just came off of a superhero movie

[00:26:54] and a mummy movie and whatever else

[00:26:57] can't have worms.

[00:26:59] Now we're gonna like plunge you into the depths of apartheid

[00:27:03] through the lens of our true story in America,

[00:27:07] but we can't, that the bridge too far

[00:27:10] is a black person saying the n-word.

[00:27:13] Yeah.

[00:27:13] Yeah.

[00:27:14] That was crazy.

[00:27:15] Disney, you've already done it.

[00:27:16] You've decided this is a good idea

[00:27:18] and I'm not saying it's a bad idea.

[00:27:20] You've decided a good idea.

[00:27:21] The, it's weird.

[00:27:22] It's a weird-

[00:27:23] The fact that it would be taken out

[00:27:25] of the TV version would make me think

[00:27:28] that that is not how they originally intended

[00:27:32] for that to, because it made the final,

[00:27:34] it made the cut clearly.

[00:27:35] Made the cut, yeah.

[00:27:36] And so, and it made, you know,

[00:27:38] made through all the script checks

[00:27:40] and people had to sign off on this.

[00:27:43] And then eventually at some point they said,

[00:27:45] maybe, maybe not.

[00:27:47] Maybe not.

[00:27:47] Maybe not.

[00:27:49] So those type of conversations,

[00:27:52] things where, you know,

[00:27:54] Maori is in the back seat

[00:27:57] and sees this guy come up and cleaning windows

[00:28:01] and they talk about, hey, so you're just able to do,

[00:28:03] like whatever you want to do.

[00:28:04] You don't have to have papers or anything like that.

[00:28:06] She's learning that black people have rights

[00:28:10] here in this country.

[00:28:12] In the middle of the 70s.

[00:28:13] In the middle of the 70s,

[00:28:14] where everything is perfect.

[00:28:15] It's never been-

[00:28:16] It was great.

[00:28:17] Yeah.

[00:28:18] And so-

[00:28:18] It's living happiness for all, of course.

[00:28:19] But it's not all serious.

[00:28:20] We get some fun times.

[00:28:21] They go to the mall.

[00:28:22] They go shopping.

[00:28:24] They're, you know, at school, they're friends.

[00:28:28] We get a nice montage of them just being friends

[00:28:30] and doing stuff.

[00:28:31] And it's good.

[00:28:32] It's sweet.

[00:28:33] They're friends.

[00:28:34] It's the color of friendship.

[00:28:35] It's the color of friendship.

[00:28:36] They start having a bond.

[00:28:38] They have a bond.

[00:28:39] That's exactly right.

[00:28:40] That's right.

[00:28:41] It's good.

[00:28:41] Things are going in the right direction.

[00:28:42] Now back in South Africa,

[00:28:44] things obviously are continuing to happen.

[00:28:47] And there has been an arrest of,

[00:28:50] does anyone remember the name?

[00:28:51] Stephen Bico.

[00:28:52] Stephen Bico.

[00:28:53] Bico.

[00:28:54] Who is somebody who's obviously fighting for-

[00:28:56] He's a revolutionary.

[00:28:57] He's speaking out against apartheid.

[00:28:58] And he's arrested.

[00:29:01] And we find that out,

[00:29:03] and we find out that there's some stuff going on,

[00:29:05] but you know,

[00:29:06] Maui's having fun.

[00:29:08] We also find out that

[00:29:10] Piper's dad is pushing for this apartheid change.

[00:29:13] And no one really in the United States cares

[00:29:15] too very much.

[00:29:17] He's speaking and like people just leave

[00:29:19] the press conference, they don't care.

[00:29:20] So we do get that.

[00:29:21] It's almost like our education system

[00:29:23] didn't teach us about apartheid.

[00:29:24] They do what?

[00:29:26] My evangelical Christian education certainly didn't.

[00:29:32] But I mean, I thought the public education may have.

[00:29:35] Yes.

[00:29:36] So we get that.

[00:29:37] I was in Florida.

[00:29:38] I think we spent like maybe a day on it.

[00:29:39] No, I've never,

[00:29:40] I literally, I was in college.

[00:29:42] I got a history degree and I was studying history

[00:29:45] in college when I heard apartheid for the first time.

[00:29:48] Yeah.

[00:29:49] I was thinking about this after we watched the movie

[00:29:52] because I did see this movie as a 10 year old.

[00:29:55] So I knew the word apartheid and kind of basically knew

[00:29:59] from this movie that it was a system.

[00:30:02] Yeah.

[00:30:04] That I knew it wasn't quite the slavery we had here,

[00:30:07] but it was not a good system.

[00:30:09] Yep.

[00:30:10] But I don't know if I ever actually learned

[00:30:13] about it in school or if I just carried with me

[00:30:16] until college,

[00:30:17] but I didn't know what the color of friendships,

[00:30:18] lessons on apartheid.

[00:30:19] I mean, you know,

[00:30:20] we educate ourselves through many different measures.

[00:30:23] One of them was a DECOM.

[00:30:24] That's right.

[00:30:25] That's right.

[00:30:25] Amen.

[00:30:26] Learn more than you.

[00:30:27] Yep. True.

[00:30:28] True.

[00:30:29] So they did their job.

[00:30:30] Until college anyway.

[00:30:31] Yes.

[00:30:32] Yes.

[00:30:32] In college I finally had somebody be like,

[00:30:33] Hey, this is real.

[00:30:35] So it comes out that this guy has died in Miko.

[00:30:39] And there's, yeah.

[00:30:40] There's thought that there is some foul play there.

[00:30:43] Well, the South African embassy is like,

[00:30:45] was killed himself.

[00:30:46] Yes.

[00:30:47] He was on a hunger strike.

[00:30:48] He killed himself.

[00:30:49] So this is causing protests to begin happening

[00:30:52] not just in South Africa,

[00:30:53] but around the world including in America.

[00:30:54] And that is why the South African embassy comes

[00:30:58] and says, Hey, you have to come with us.

[00:31:00] True.

[00:31:01] To Mallory.

[00:31:01] And Mallory.

[00:31:02] Mallory.

[00:31:03] And she's not happy about it.

[00:31:05] She's like, these are my friends.

[00:31:06] Yes.

[00:31:07] These are my friends.

[00:31:08] I don't want to go.

[00:31:09] I don't want to go,

[00:31:10] but they're like, you're coming with us.

[00:31:11] Yeah.

[00:31:11] You're a minor.

[00:31:12] You don't get to make that decision.

[00:31:13] And this is when this movie is at its best

[00:31:16] and it is when she is at the embassy

[00:31:18] and Piper starts to grapple with

[00:31:21] what it means to be friends with Mallory.

[00:31:25] Right.

[00:31:26] Because what it means to be friends with Mallory

[00:31:28] is as Mallory's dad is a South African police officer.

[00:31:32] It's basically like being friends with a Nazi

[00:31:34] is what it's like.

[00:31:36] And so she has to grapple with the very real world

[00:31:39] understanding of what it means to be friends

[00:31:41] with someone who's inherently racist.

[00:31:44] Right.

[00:31:45] So she can come to America and visit Piper,

[00:31:47] but Piper can't visit Mallory.

[00:31:49] Yes.

[00:31:50] And her parents are propagating that system.

[00:31:51] This is a, this is I know what you tune in for here

[00:31:53] and to come to send this.

[00:31:54] This is the good stuff as people call it.

[00:31:56] Yes.

[00:31:57] So that's all happening.

[00:31:58] Yes.

[00:31:59] So by the time that Piper's dad goes

[00:32:01] and gets Mallory released from the embassy

[00:32:03] to come back home,

[00:32:04] Mallory is the same.

[00:32:06] Piper is a different person.

[00:32:07] Yeah.

[00:32:08] Yeah.

[00:32:09] Mallory is thrilled to be out of the embassy.

[00:32:10] She was like, it was a prison.

[00:32:12] Yes.

[00:32:13] Piper is grappling with all of these like,

[00:32:16] Big time thoughts.

[00:32:17] Big time thoughts.

[00:32:18] And Piper also knows the truth about Biko,

[00:32:21] whereas Mallory's like who cares?

[00:32:23] He was a troublemaker and he killed himself.

[00:32:25] Like left,

[00:32:26] It's not important to me.

[00:32:26] I'm back, let's party.

[00:32:27] Correct.

[00:32:28] And Piper's like, what is wrong with you?

[00:32:30] Like this is a real issue.

[00:32:34] Anyone with like half a brain knows

[00:32:36] that this is an issue.

[00:32:37] Yes.

[00:32:38] And so Piper obviously has to have a conversation

[00:32:43] like with her dad about this.

[00:32:44] And dad explains, obviously, listen,

[00:32:47] America's got it together.

[00:32:49] Yeah.

[00:32:49] We cured it.

[00:32:50] Yeah.

[00:32:51] It's the 1970s for God's sake.

[00:32:53] Well, they have a fight.

[00:32:53] We stopped this thing out.

[00:32:55] Piper's dad talks to Mallory.

[00:32:56] That's what it is.

[00:32:57] Yes.

[00:32:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:32:59] The girls have a fight because Piper is like

[00:33:01] your dad basically killed Biko.

[00:33:03] He's a police officer.

[00:33:04] The police officer's killed Biko.

[00:33:06] He's a pig.

[00:33:07] My dad would never.

[00:33:08] Yeah, but she would.

[00:33:10] And so she runs out.

[00:33:12] Piper runs out.

[00:33:13] Congressman goes after her.

[00:33:14] Congressman goes to talk to her.

[00:33:15] Has a conversation, explains, listen, America,

[00:33:18] America cured, we cured.

[00:33:19] Yeah, we had to grapple with some issues.

[00:33:21] America!

[00:33:22] And we're here now.

[00:33:26] We haven't broached that topic

[00:33:28] of a language on our podcast yet.

[00:33:29] We could go there.

[00:33:31] When the calendar turned to 1970,

[00:33:33] racism in all its forms in America systemic

[00:33:35] and otherwise was cured.

[00:33:37] According to this movie, we read Roots

[00:33:39] and we said, gotta stop that.

[00:33:40] They made a TV series Roots with LeVar Burton

[00:33:43] and it was like, cool.

[00:33:45] Could we get any more equal?

[00:33:46] I mean, man.

[00:33:47] Yeah.

[00:33:48] So that, I mean,

[00:33:50] watching it as a kid, I was like, yeah, sure.

[00:33:52] And then watching it now, I'm like.

[00:33:55] I'm sure you got a lot to unpack

[00:33:56] in the overtime segment.

[00:33:58] I mean, I'm sure you have so much to unpack.

[00:34:00] So he's explaining, he's explaining that.

[00:34:03] My whole childhood.

[00:34:04] While America is where it is now,

[00:34:06] it hasn't always been this way.

[00:34:08] And that is what the people in South Africa

[00:34:09] are fighting for.

[00:34:10] They're fighting to have the same type of freedom as them.

[00:34:11] And she can go back to South Africa and also fight.

[00:34:14] Yes, yes.

[00:34:15] And then she says, let me tell you

[00:34:16] about what my black friend told me

[00:34:18] and shares this story about the bird

[00:34:21] that has the nest and the birds of all different colors.

[00:34:24] I've heard also questions, Mari,

[00:34:25] on that being her actual friend.

[00:34:27] That's a maid.

[00:34:28] If you weren't paying her

[00:34:28] and she didn't work for you,

[00:34:29] you wouldn't be friends.

[00:34:30] And that's a world rocker for Mari,

[00:34:32] which is really good.

[00:34:33] And then she tells him about the Weaver Bird.

[00:34:35] We stopped paying Flora.

[00:34:37] She would leave.

[00:34:38] Correct, yes.

[00:34:39] But hey, here's a fun thing about the Weaver Bird

[00:34:41] and it's great.

[00:34:43] Birds of different colors live and work together.

[00:34:44] Yeah, yeah.

[00:34:45] And so now the friends have reconciled

[00:34:49] and it's wonderful.

[00:34:51] And then...

[00:34:52] It cured racism and then racism had a little bump.

[00:34:55] The congressman has a speech.

[00:34:57] At the Pan-African Festival.

[00:34:58] Yes, and Mari is there.

[00:35:01] Mari?

[00:35:01] And thank you.

[00:35:02] And standing behind them like,

[00:35:04] hey, I'm standing with everybody here.

[00:35:08] Their friend, Danny, who is from Nigeria

[00:35:13] is handing out the South African Freedom Flags.

[00:35:16] Which are banned in South Africa at a time.

[00:35:19] And he gives one...

[00:35:21] He has been kind of on the fence about Mari

[00:35:23] because he's like, there's no way...

[00:35:25] He's from Africa.

[00:35:26] He's like, there's no way a white South African...

[00:35:29] It's okay.

[00:35:30] I'm just afraid.

[00:35:31] Oh, it gets choked up.

[00:35:31] Whoa!

[00:35:32] There's no way a white South African

[00:35:35] could understand these issues.

[00:35:36] But he has seen a change in Mari

[00:35:38] and so he gives her his flag

[00:35:40] and Mari is very touched and holds onto it.

[00:35:42] And the congressman during the speech also says,

[00:35:45] hey, I have a new friend told me the story

[00:35:47] about the Weaverbird.

[00:35:48] Let me tell you about the Weaverbird.

[00:35:49] He goes to FDR, a classically not racist president.

[00:35:53] And then she goes back to South Africa,

[00:35:56] gives a big hug to the maid, shows her the flag.

[00:36:00] She is sewn because the flag is banned

[00:36:03] and if you have it, you get in trouble.

[00:36:05] Definitely not beaten by the police, but...

[00:36:09] And so Mari has sewn the flag into the lining of her vest.

[00:36:13] And she shows Flora and Flora as like,

[00:36:15] yes, I wanted you to go to America

[00:36:16] to learn some things and you did it.

[00:36:18] You have learned some things.

[00:36:20] Let's see if we learn some things.

[00:36:21] We're gonna take a quick break.

[00:36:23] We're gonna come back.

[00:36:24] We're gonna talk about a color of friendship.

[00:36:26] Here on Deacon Descendants.

[00:36:29] Deacon Descendants is a brambleson podcast.

[00:36:35] Not yet, we're back.

[00:36:36] We're back.

[00:36:37] We still have overtime and making the list.

[00:36:39] So early, it's on me.

[00:36:41] It is time for the overtime part of the show

[00:36:44] is where we talk about how this movie aged overtime.

[00:36:48] For those of us that have seen it,

[00:36:49] how did we like it back then?

[00:36:51] Had you seen it before, Bram?

[00:36:52] I have seen it at least once.

[00:36:55] Not as many.

[00:36:56] I have also seen it at least once.

[00:36:58] Fascinated by the VHS,

[00:36:59] well, just Shay recorded it for you on VHS.

[00:37:02] So I could buy, Disney did not air it enough for my liking

[00:37:05] and so my dad recorded it onto a VHS tape

[00:37:07] so I could watch it all the time and I did.

[00:37:10] So this is gonna be some letter.

[00:37:12] I wanna still have that VHS.

[00:37:13] I don't think I did.

[00:37:14] Some letter box reviews.

[00:37:16] Tyree says better than Green Book.

[00:37:20] Thomas says, here's a reminder that there's a D-Com

[00:37:24] where they say the N word.

[00:37:26] Geneleyn says, imagine my shock

[00:37:28] when these two little girls say the N word with a heart R

[00:37:31] in my Disney Channel original movie.

[00:37:34] Nolio says woke Disney?

[00:37:36] Question mark.

[00:37:37] Sean says they freed the effin bird.

[00:37:41] Yes.

[00:37:42] Live your life without a cage, my little homie.

[00:37:46] And those are your letter box reviews.

[00:37:48] And better than Green Book got me.

[00:37:50] That's fantastic.

[00:37:51] Better than Green Book.

[00:37:52] And not wrong, weirdly enough.

[00:37:54] There was another one that said

[00:37:55] better than Green Book and the help.

[00:37:57] So.

[00:37:59] Yeah, we're getting someplace now.

[00:38:00] We're getting someplace.

[00:38:01] Let's see how we feel about it.

[00:38:03] Aaron, you are the whitest among us.

[00:38:06] You go first.

[00:38:07] You're white Irish boss.

[00:38:08] Yeah.

[00:38:09] Like we are.

[00:38:11] Yeah, we're white.

[00:38:12] We've got a classically Caucasian.

[00:38:13] You are extra.

[00:38:14] You're another level.

[00:38:15] Extra something.

[00:38:16] You're another level.

[00:38:17] So we will let you go first

[00:38:18] and tell everybody your thoughts

[00:38:21] on the color of friendship.

[00:38:25] I love this movie.

[00:38:28] I love this movie as a kid.

[00:38:29] I still love this movie now.

[00:38:32] It definitely,

[00:38:36] and I had way more thoughts about it as an adult.

[00:38:38] Like I understood the severity of it as a kid

[00:38:40] but watching it now,

[00:38:42] I understand apartheid more

[00:38:46] in the whole system in South Africa.

[00:38:49] As a kid, I did buy into the propaganda

[00:38:52] that Disney was selling

[00:38:53] that we in America had fixed things.

[00:38:56] We knocked it out.

[00:38:57] And so that aspect,

[00:38:59] which I never really thought about as a kid

[00:39:01] made me sad as an adult watching it

[00:39:04] because I was like, we didn't fix it then

[00:39:07] and we definitely have not fixed it now.

[00:39:10] And so just watching this movie that is 24 years old

[00:39:14] and realizing that we haven't made as much progress

[00:39:18] as I would have liked on any front,

[00:39:21] got some sad feels.

[00:39:25] But yeah, I still think that this movie

[00:39:27] was important for kids.

[00:39:31] It is where I learned about apartheid

[00:39:32] and it's probably as a kid,

[00:39:34] the most educational thing I received on racism.

[00:39:39] So yeah, I stand by this movie.

[00:39:40] I loved it.

[00:39:42] It's gonna be one of my favorites.

[00:39:46] So, well let's get this out of the way

[00:39:48] while Disney sucks.

[00:39:50] Let's just put it out there.

[00:39:51] Rita, like just Rita Wikipedia, he sucks.

[00:39:55] So like the fact that they're making this movie in 2000

[00:39:58] is like, all right, good for you.

[00:40:01] Maybe you should have made it 10 years ago,

[00:40:04] something like that.

[00:40:05] But they did it and it's good overall.

[00:40:10] Obviously what I have rather than have handled

[00:40:13] America better and more honestly, yeah, of course,

[00:40:18] but that was never gonna happen.

[00:40:20] And so for what this is, it's really good.

[00:40:24] Now as a kid, this movie comes on and I'm like,

[00:40:28] can we just freaking watch Brink or something?

[00:40:30] That's like, you know,

[00:40:32] like is this, are the serious D-coms

[00:40:36] and there's other ones that we'll get to.

[00:40:38] Are they my favorite?

[00:40:39] No, no, they're not.

[00:40:40] Like I would rather do the fun things

[00:40:42] with the roller-plating and the hijinks.

[00:40:44] But for what this is, it is pretty darn well done.

[00:40:49] And I thought the two kids,

[00:40:52] the two teenagers that are in this movie crushed it.

[00:40:55] I thought both of them were really good.

[00:40:58] Surrounded by some questionable,

[00:41:00] some of us surrounded by some more questionable actors.

[00:41:05] I think the two leads are fantastic

[00:41:08] and had great chemistry together.

[00:41:09] And so overall, quite good

[00:41:15] but would I watch it again?

[00:41:17] Yes.

[00:41:18] I don't think I'm going out of my way to watch it again,

[00:41:20] but I do appreciate what they were going for.

[00:41:22] And I thought they overall,

[00:41:24] they did a pretty good job.

[00:41:26] Yeah, I mean, looking through her filmography,

[00:41:29] I don't understand why Lindsey Han

[00:41:32] was so iconic to my childhood.

[00:41:35] She didn't do much.

[00:41:36] She was really good though.

[00:41:37] She was really good.

[00:41:38] But she like was probably one

[00:41:41] of the first Disney Channel stars.

[00:41:43] Like I really remember her name to this day, Lindsey Han.

[00:41:45] And like probably before Hillary Duff was on Lizzie McGuire.

[00:41:48] Like I've seen other movies that Lindsey was in.

[00:41:51] Like for a while she was in...

[00:41:52] I guess the biggest thing she's done since this

[00:41:54] is True Blood, I guess.

[00:41:57] I'm not sure she was a small part in True Blood

[00:41:59] if she was in True Blood.

[00:42:02] I can't remember then.

[00:42:03] Let's see if I can find the name of the movie.

[00:42:07] She was good.

[00:42:08] It was a recurring role for Hadley Hale.

[00:42:11] Okay.

[00:42:11] True Blood.

[00:42:12] I don't know anything about True Blood,

[00:42:14] but that's what her Wikipedia says.

[00:42:16] That it's a thing.

[00:42:17] She was in a movie, a TV movie

[00:42:20] where Virginia Matson played her mom.

[00:42:24] And then like a year later,

[00:42:25] Hillary Duff made the same exact movie.

[00:42:27] And I stand by Lindsey Han's being a better version.

[00:42:30] Wow.

[00:42:31] All right.

[00:42:32] Wow, wow, wow.

[00:42:33] Dano.

[00:42:34] Yeah, this movie is impossible.

[00:42:39] It is so hard because I did not...

[00:42:43] This was my first viewing of this movie.

[00:42:45] And it, as an adult who wants to be better

[00:42:52] and wants to like own the fact that our country

[00:42:57] very much has miles to go

[00:42:59] and the systems baked in a racist need to be,

[00:43:02] you know, torn down to the rubble

[00:43:04] and rebuilt brick by brick.

[00:43:06] And the onus of that is on me as a white person.

[00:43:09] This movie made me viscerally angry.

[00:43:10] Having said that,

[00:43:13] the movie has to be acknowledged in its time and place.

[00:43:17] You know, Martin Scorsese made some movies in the 70s

[00:43:19] that we get him canceled today.

[00:43:21] But in the 70s, they were thought of

[00:43:22] as kind of weirdly progressive.

[00:43:25] So, you know, in the 80s and 90s

[00:43:27] and early in the 2000s,

[00:43:29] we had a big push of color blindness for racism,

[00:43:31] which is like, if we just see everybody equal,

[00:43:35] if you see no color,

[00:43:37] then you're treating everyone equal.

[00:43:38] That was a push.

[00:43:39] I remember growing up,

[00:43:40] that was how I was taught to be not racist was...

[00:43:43] To not see color.

[00:43:44] Don't see color.

[00:43:45] And now we know what we should have known then.

[00:43:49] It was a power move to keep white people in charge

[00:43:51] because if you look at a paradigm of inequality

[00:43:54] and you present with it neutral, it remains unequal.

[00:43:56] If you look at a paradigm of inequality

[00:44:00] and bring neutral, it remains equal.

[00:44:02] So, if I...

[00:44:03] That was my understanding of double or nothing though.

[00:44:05] That was how I understood it.

[00:44:08] Yeah, and that's fair.

[00:44:09] That's fair.

[00:44:10] I can tell you got there.

[00:44:11] So if we bring neutrality, color blindness

[00:44:13] to something that is unequal,

[00:44:15] we are part of keeping it unequal.

[00:44:17] And this movie very much proselytizes that.

[00:44:22] Having said that,

[00:44:24] if I had watched it when I was 15,

[00:44:27] it would have been more of an education on the topic

[00:44:30] than I got when I was 15.

[00:44:32] I would have been challenged

[00:44:34] and maybe changed as a 15 year old

[00:44:37] more than I was in my white evangelical Christian school

[00:44:41] not hearing about it.

[00:44:42] So, I have to give it props for that.

[00:44:43] Would I show this to my children now?

[00:44:45] Not on your life.

[00:44:47] Would my kids be anywhere near this movie now?

[00:44:49] For a number of reasons.

[00:44:50] Except for the first five minutes

[00:44:51] where they're all saying that they will.

[00:44:53] There are lessons to be learned here.

[00:44:55] I want that.

[00:44:56] Listen, don't throw the baby out of the bathwater.

[00:44:59] But I don't want...

[00:45:01] That's the saying, right?

[00:45:02] It is the saying.

[00:45:03] Yeah, it shouldn't be.

[00:45:04] We shouldn't throw any babies out.

[00:45:06] No babies should be thrown.

[00:45:07] None.

[00:45:08] But I wouldn't show my kids this movie.

[00:45:09] I want them to know that systemic racism is alive and well.

[00:45:12] I also wanted to know that it is not on the onus

[00:45:15] of people of color to explain that

[00:45:17] and fix that for white people.

[00:45:19] And I do believe that this movie does those things.

[00:45:21] But I do believe at the time,

[00:45:22] this is a black director

[00:45:23] and he's working with Disney notes

[00:45:25] and he's probably doing the best he can

[00:45:27] with what he's given.

[00:45:30] And so I hated it in 2024.

[00:45:33] I would never let my kids anywhere near it.

[00:45:35] I think it sends a bad message.

[00:45:37] But in 2000, 14-

[00:45:39] Also a black screenwriter, by the way.

[00:45:41] Yeah, but in true story.

[00:45:43] But in the year 2000, with teenagers who were like me,

[00:45:48] it could have really probably helped back then.

[00:45:51] So impossibly confusing, not really fair for me to rank it.

[00:45:55] But there you have it.

[00:45:55] I gotta rank it too.

[00:45:56] So there's that.

[00:45:57] I think it would have been nice to see Disney continue

[00:46:01] in this vein and use its platform.

[00:46:04] Correct, yeah.

[00:46:07] Yeah, I mean, it's nice knowing the education I have had

[00:46:10] and the self-learning that I've gone on.

[00:46:12] It's nice to see how far I've come

[00:46:14] in watching this movie now and being like,

[00:46:16] oh there's a lot of propaganda towards the white people here.

[00:46:20] And that's not how America is.

[00:46:21] And then also seeing, yeah, just like when I,

[00:46:24] because literally when I watched as a kid,

[00:46:25] I was like, yeah, we definitely have it figured out.

[00:46:28] And I'm like, we definitely do not and we still do not.

[00:46:30] Keep in mind, this is also Disney in the year 2000

[00:46:34] explaining it through the 1970s.

[00:46:37] So not only are they saying we figured out in the 1970s,

[00:46:40] we're even better now.

[00:46:41] Now, yeah.

[00:46:43] And I will say-

[00:46:44] So that is the thing that's like,

[00:46:45] you're really layering in this American nationalism

[00:46:49] in there that is baked into this pretty good.

[00:46:51] And the first time I like,

[00:46:53] I studied abroad and the people in that country,

[00:46:57] I remember having so many conversations with them

[00:47:00] and they were asking me like how our country did it.

[00:47:03] How did we solve racism?

[00:47:05] And I was like, I don't understand.

[00:47:08] We have not.

[00:47:09] And this was in 2011.

[00:47:13] So they're like, well your president is black.

[00:47:15] So you've done it.

[00:47:18] And trying to, and then that was one of the first times

[00:47:20] I really had to like try to put it into words.

[00:47:21] I was like, we have not though.

[00:47:25] And so really try to, and then yeah.

[00:47:27] So the image, so Disney's image was working.

[00:47:30] The rest of the world did think we had to figure it out.

[00:47:33] But we don't.

[00:47:34] And we're still trying.

[00:47:36] The goal is to make it fail forward.

[00:47:39] To, you know, it's not always gonna be in a straight line

[00:47:41] but hopefully we get back.

[00:47:42] They remade under wraps a couple years ago.

[00:47:44] Let's remake Color Friendship and let's do it right.

[00:47:48] I love it.

[00:47:49] Let's tell the actual story.

[00:47:50] Tell the story.

[00:47:51] Well, the actual story is Mari went back to South Africa

[00:47:54] and became an activist.

[00:47:55] And they don't even say that at the end of this movie.

[00:47:57] Like I think that's a really like powerful part of it.

[00:47:59] And they don't do anything.

[00:48:00] Was killed shortly after her activism.

[00:48:02] So.

[00:48:03] RIP obviously.

[00:48:03] Like that, yes.

[00:48:04] By somebody who almost most definitely

[00:48:09] at the very least knew her dad.

[00:48:12] Right?

[00:48:12] Not quite her dad.

[00:48:14] Probably not her dad.

[00:48:15] Yeah.

[00:48:16] So I need to do a research into real story.

[00:48:17] Somebody very much like dad killed her.

[00:48:18] Yeah.

[00:48:20] But I mean, I think since the 70s

[00:48:22] there have been a lot of other stories that Disney could tell.

[00:48:26] I mean, Dan hasn't quite seen this yet.

[00:48:29] There will be in the next few movies

[00:48:31] or next couple years on Disney.

[00:48:33] They do tell real stories.

[00:48:35] There is gonna be a movie about the start of the WNBA.

[00:48:39] Oh wow.

[00:48:39] So like they're, so they do go through this push

[00:48:41] where they do highlight real, real stories.

[00:48:46] And I would like.

[00:48:49] Disney's been woke for a long time.

[00:48:51] I don't know if woke is the word

[00:48:52] that I would use to describe those movies

[00:48:54] but they do highlight real children

[00:48:57] and the accomplishments they made.

[00:48:59] But then they move away from it

[00:49:01] and their movies a few years later

[00:49:02] just dive right back into hijinks.

[00:49:05] And I think Disney is still a good,

[00:49:07] like a not a good,

[00:49:08] but like a major platform for children.

[00:49:10] And I would like to see them go back into this vein

[00:49:13] where like we're highlighting stories

[00:49:15] that children need to see,

[00:49:17] but do it in the right way.

[00:49:18] It's so much easier to just give kids

[00:49:21] the thing that doesn't challenge.

[00:49:23] It's so much because then you know

[00:49:25] that parents get questions

[00:49:27] and parents don't want questions.

[00:49:29] Parents should answer questions.

[00:49:30] It's literally your job as a parent.

[00:49:31] That's exactly right.

[00:49:33] But parents don't wanna do it.

[00:49:34] They wanna push them off

[00:49:35] or tell them Santa Claus exists or whatever.

[00:49:39] You know they wanna push the questions off

[00:49:42] to make a world that's safer for their kids.

[00:49:45] When I was reading,

[00:49:46] I was trying to do some research to find out

[00:49:47] if when it originally aired they used the N word or not.

[00:49:50] Couldn't really find anything.

[00:49:51] Everyone seems shocked in watching it on Disney Plus

[00:49:54] that had the N word,

[00:49:55] which leaves me to believe

[00:49:56] it never aired with the language.

[00:49:59] But one parent on Reddit was complaining

[00:50:01] that I thought I've seen this as a kid,

[00:50:03] thought it was safe to show my children.

[00:50:05] I've tried really hard to keep them away

[00:50:07] from the N word

[00:50:08] because I never want them to use it.

[00:50:09] And I was really disappointed that it was in here.

[00:50:12] And then the comments were nice.

[00:50:13] The comments were like,

[00:50:14] well, isn't this the context that you want them to hear it

[00:50:18] where it's being used in a culturally appropriate way

[00:50:22] and you have the opportunity

[00:50:23] to talk to your kids about it?

[00:50:25] And so all your point like yes.

[00:50:27] This is like in family matters

[00:50:30] when they spray paint that word

[00:50:32] across Laura Winslow's locker.

[00:50:35] That's a great opportunity

[00:50:39] to like intercede with your kids and be like,

[00:50:42] hey, let's talk about this.

[00:50:45] That is much better than not just to,

[00:50:47] I use family matters as a teaching.

[00:50:49] Because your kids are gonna hear every night.

[00:50:51] Your kids are gonna hear this in music

[00:50:53] or other kids at school.

[00:50:55] They're gonna learn about these issues

[00:50:56] and I don't know,

[00:50:57] wouldn't you as a parent wanna be a part of that conversation?

[00:51:00] Now we're just in a full message podcast

[00:51:02] but no, that's not your fault.

[00:51:03] I started this.

[00:51:05] It's the pervasive thought of most white,

[00:51:08] especially white evangelicals is,

[00:51:12] look be nice to people but we're not gonna deal.

[00:51:14] Like we just don't want it.

[00:51:15] Don't tell me about your identity.

[00:51:17] Don't tell me about how you're different.

[00:51:18] I don't want my kid.

[00:51:19] Like let's just not deal with it.

[00:51:22] I think that is a pervasive message that is,

[00:51:25] like we just, why do you have to show me that on TV?

[00:51:27] It's like a pervasive thing

[00:51:28] that's happening right now and that's unfortunate.

[00:51:31] Because TV likes to show everybody

[00:51:34] and everybody exists in the real world

[00:51:36] and you can't just ignore people walking down the street.

[00:51:39] So you should be able to ignore the one TV here.

[00:51:42] Fair, let's get to our list.

[00:51:43] It's time for making the list.

[00:51:44] This is where we talk about where are we putting this movie

[00:51:47] in our lists.

[00:51:48] Totally.

[00:51:50] We are now dropping four movies, gonzo.

[00:51:54] You might never hear from these movies ever again.

[00:51:58] Starting at number 10,

[00:51:59] Aaron do you have it?

[00:52:00] Are you ready or do you need more time?

[00:52:02] No I have it.

[00:52:03] There's been another change up in the list.

[00:52:04] Thank God if we continue to have this horse sense propaganda.

[00:52:08] Oh move back up, sorry.

[00:52:09] Ha ha ha.

[00:52:13] Did some thinking in brain.

[00:52:15] This is Aaron's not real list.

[00:52:18] Yeah, we make jokes on the podcast all the time.

[00:52:22] I might lose my job over this list and that's fine.

[00:52:26] Stick to your guns.

[00:52:27] Stick to your guns.

[00:52:28] Stand up for what you believe in.

[00:52:30] Horse sense number one, I was kidding.

[00:52:33] Fire.

[00:52:34] Brink is also number one.

[00:52:36] All right, number 10, don't look under the bed.

[00:52:39] Nine genius, eight brink, seven horse sense,

[00:52:43] six up, up and away, five xenon, four Halloween town,

[00:52:47] three smart house, two Johnny Sonami.

[00:52:50] Whoa.

[00:52:52] Color friendship.

[00:52:53] Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[00:52:54] Well, horse sense went down to seven.

[00:52:56] It was in your top five last week.

[00:52:58] No I had moved it below brink.

[00:53:01] Oh I switched it with Brink.

[00:53:02] You did top five for it.

[00:53:04] It was when it first, the first week.

[00:53:06] And then you went to six with it and now it's,

[00:53:08] because we added a movie it's at seven.

[00:53:10] I got you, okay.

[00:53:12] All right, that makes me feel better.

[00:53:13] Color friendship one, this is nostalgia, right?

[00:53:16] This is like.

[00:53:17] Yeah and I might have mentioned this.

[00:53:20] I was talking about it with somebody.

[00:53:21] When it comes to movies,

[00:53:23] I do prefer a serious topic over all the hijinks.

[00:53:28] I'm not super here for like let's play pranks

[00:53:32] and just try to gross out our audience.

[00:53:35] I know, sorry guys.

[00:53:36] So.

[00:53:37] Freaking weird.

[00:53:38] How did you get hired here?

[00:53:40] Prank TV.

[00:53:41] Prank TV.

[00:53:41] I love a smart prank.

[00:53:44] There are times when it's.

[00:53:46] Hey Erin look under your chair.

[00:53:48] You won't believe what's under there.

[00:53:50] Got him.

[00:53:51] Like one time I left the office and came back

[00:53:55] and the guys thought it'd be really funny prank

[00:53:57] to move my chair.

[00:54:00] And that's just not a good prank.

[00:54:01] I wasn't in on that.

[00:54:02] That is dumb.

[00:54:03] I'm also for a smart prank.

[00:54:05] And they had hidden cameras around the office

[00:54:07] and I just came in.

[00:54:08] Saw my chair wasn't there,

[00:54:09] grabbed another chair, kept working.

[00:54:11] I do not endorse.

[00:54:12] I can't believe Brian did that.

[00:54:14] This is so messed up man.

[00:54:16] But yeah, so for a while Color Friends,

[00:54:19] it's not gonna stay number one

[00:54:21] but Color Friends is a movie I would rather watch.

[00:54:24] I feel like you're doing this

[00:54:25] just out of loyalty to your childhood

[00:54:27] is what you're doing this out of.

[00:54:29] I mean I really thought about it.

[00:54:31] It was number two for a while after I watched it.

[00:54:35] But if my choices were to watch Johnny Sonami

[00:54:38] or Color Friendship,

[00:54:40] more often I would watch Color Friendship.

[00:54:42] That's crazy man.

[00:54:42] That is-

[00:54:43] I think you're doing this to make us look bad.

[00:54:45] Yeah.

[00:54:46] I think that's what, this is what you're doing.

[00:54:47] We know what you're doing.

[00:54:48] No, I'm fine with it.

[00:54:49] I can't believe it.

[00:54:50] I can't believe this movie.

[00:54:51] This movie doesn't belong anywhere near one

[00:54:53] on anyone's list in 2024.

[00:54:55] But if you're doing it for your 10 year old self

[00:54:57] then God bless you.

[00:54:58] You want me to go?

[00:54:59] Go for it Brian.

[00:55:00] 13th year.

[00:55:01] Nine up, up and away.

[00:55:02] Eight Color Friendship.

[00:55:04] Seven, Xenon.

[00:55:05] Six, Genius.

[00:55:07] Five, don't look under the bed.

[00:55:09] Four, Halloween Town.

[00:55:10] Three, Johnny Sonami.

[00:55:11] Two, Smart House.

[00:55:12] And number one, we're going Soul Skating Baby.

[00:55:15] It's prank.

[00:55:17] Also, travesty.

[00:55:19] Number 10, Can of Worms.

[00:55:22] Number nine, Color of Friendship.

[00:55:24] Number eight, Smart House.

[00:55:26] Number seven, Up, Up and Away.

[00:55:29] Number six, don't look under the bed.

[00:55:31] Number five, Xenon.

[00:55:33] Number four, Brink.

[00:55:34] Three, Genius.

[00:55:35] Two, Halloween Town.

[00:55:37] One, Johnny, Sonami.

[00:55:39] Wow.

[00:55:40] There you have it.

[00:55:41] Three very different lists.

[00:55:42] Yeah, and I will say like what you said

[00:55:47] in the overtime.

[00:55:48] If I had seen this movie for the first time

[00:55:50] Yeah, listen.

[00:55:51] In 2024, it would be very down on my list.

[00:55:54] You don't have to defend yourself

[00:55:55] because it was your favorite movie growing up.

[00:55:57] So it doesn't...

[00:55:58] But is a movie that was a jump start for me

[00:56:01] into learning about real issues.

[00:56:03] Yeah, that's a big deal.

[00:56:04] So...

[00:56:05] It's a seminal moment in your life.

[00:56:07] There's nothing wrong with that.

[00:56:08] And to be fair, I put it in my top 10.

[00:56:10] I put it at nine.

[00:56:12] And I think there are five movies I had worse than that.

[00:56:14] It's impossible to rank though.

[00:56:16] It really is because of the movies I would show my

[00:56:19] children, I would rather than watch Can of Worms.

[00:56:21] But of the movies that have quality in them,

[00:56:26] and I can see at the time being impactful,

[00:56:28] it's probably like five or six.

[00:56:31] So I don't know.

[00:56:31] I don't know what to do.

[00:56:33] It's up there for now, but we are gonna,

[00:56:36] as I was saying, we are gonna dive into a period

[00:56:39] of time on Disney where they highlight stories.

[00:56:42] And so when we begin to see color friendship against those,

[00:56:46] I think it's gonna affect how I view color friendship

[00:56:48] and color friendship will knock down.

[00:56:50] But right now I'm comparing color friendship to Can of Worms

[00:56:53] and that's where I'm at.

[00:56:55] Yeah, I'm at about there.

[00:56:56] We did it everybody, congratulations.

[00:56:59] Next week we'll be back with Ally Cat Strike,

[00:57:01] another very serious movie.

[00:57:03] Yeah, very serious.

[00:57:04] Not serious, but also when they never played a lot.

[00:57:06] Yeah, yeah, they sure didn't.

[00:57:08] And I have thought about that final shot

[00:57:10] every time I go bowling.

[00:57:11] Let's see if there's a reason why

[00:57:13] they didn't play it very often.

[00:57:14] We'll talk about it next week.

[00:57:15] Oh no.

[00:57:16] Until then.

[00:57:18] Decom.

[00:57:19] Decom it up.

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