Tru Walker aspires to be a famous filmmaker. She has a twin brother Eddie, who is developmentally disabled due to oxygen deprivation at birth. Eddie becomes the subject of Tru's documentary for a film contest she enters.
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[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: That's Dan. Every week we break down a Disney Channel original movie. We're going straight through and that brings us to today
[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is true Confessions? We're gonna get to that in just a moment
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[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It's so cool just so much shady doings on the bus Friday morning
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I would save that pop tart because my first class as we were just talking about with sociology and Friday mornings
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[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I learned a lot about sociology. Was there anything better?
[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I you're the you're the difference here Dan exception exception because you're like a coach
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That was a teacher like you're yeah people were in for it when they got different like most people most coaches
[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not the case they get thrown in it typically is like a history of sorts
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And it is typically always bad like the worst history teacher I ever had was a coach and he just showed up
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[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That's good in that order, but you can get that in I L money
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's good you're good to go now
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I was just talking to Brian about how crazy the bus his his boys are going on the bus a couple days a week and
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Just how crazy the buses and that is crazy. There's so many things where you know, you're like
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that's not a thing anymore, right?
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like buses they're an essential people some people can't get to school
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But you need them but just the idea of having like
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: 30 kids on a
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[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Qualification for being around children is that they can drive big things. That's yeah, that's another adult on the bus
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: No, just just to drive. Okay. Yeah, it's just the drive. Yeah, it's wild
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Our buses like
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Public buses or do you have to pay? No the transport. It's public public
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, public it was public I need for a girl when I was in college
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And you had she had to like pay to take a school bus is it because what it was actually a school bus?
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was a school bus it would do public school
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But the town it wasn't a part of the town's budget
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So like if you want to hit to ride the bus because she said like one year she didn't pay for it
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what are you this new Hampshire, Massachusetts? Really? That's shocking
[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Libs and it was a rich town. I was
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: That's really crazy
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just not taking the bus and they need to like I couldn't figure it out
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, she was like you have to get your bus pass and I was like, oh like public transportation
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_02]: She's like no for the school bus
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy. I thought that was just a part of it like I had
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Educations are right. It has to be a part of it, right? Yeah, but not the not the I guess it's not a right to get to get to
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Once you're there, it's a right
[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a weird one. No, that one. That's that's interesting
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It does seem like everybody is delishing right now aside for these like
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[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Can't spell de com without D for delish that's exactly right
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[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Are interested in having some sort of goody while you watch true confessions or just watch us talk about true
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[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so sometimes I try to pair the delish as something like cutesy or gimmicky from the movie and
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_02]: This movie is neither cutesy nor gimmicky and it was really hard for me to think of something
[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I tried to watch it outside of when we watch it together so that I could find a delish
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And I just realized it's a hard watch. I don't think I want to do this two days in a row
[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I was really just kind of craving like a comfort food
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I decided that for this we are just going to have a bowl of popcorn
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I went with movie theater butter popcorn
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know why this works though is because
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: When Shia sits down to watch the movie he eats popcorn there
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So there you go the tie-ins clear as crystal and we're you know kind of making it our own
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We have some dill pickle seasoning some pumpkin spice seasoning. You can get any seasoning you want
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I also like I also like white cheddar
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: We thought about not allowing it in different candies give it right
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You know just have fun with it whatever you guys just sit down and watch a tough movie
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: This episode I love you describing popcorn to people so you can pop it and then I didn't say you could pop it
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you have to pop but just you talking about how you can
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You can add stuff if you want you can dance some people don't you're so right if you don't add anything to your popcorn
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what's the beer tie-in it just is
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you need something to get through a movie. You know what's the drink? What is the beer we have tonight today?
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna love it
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not bad. Yeah
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[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: If you think that's not bad, but I'll toss the most beer tasting beer of all really yeah, this doesn't taste like anything
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly
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[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I put the pumpkin spice seasoning on this so let me see what this is about can I try one
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Lovely, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. We'll talk about true confessions and I think so much more actually Wow
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Considered it no problem. If it's not true
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: confess
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a fun year in my life where I didn't eat popcorn because I had to run a popcorn booth at a thing
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was so old and I could you give us less information?
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And I
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Grease burns and I just need popcorn for a year. She didn't pop one year that I had to run a popcorn booth
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Summer camp it was registration day at summer camp
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was in charge of the popcorn booth every Sunday and then the end of the summer
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I was just covered in popcorn burns and then I gave up popcorn for a while
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It was more the burns than it was like yeah the smell or whatever. Yeah, that's fair
[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just traumatic blame popcorn for what the oil did to you
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so true. Don't blame Jesus for the church. We've gone past it. I'm clearly over it. I
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Mean you can't talk and eat like in therapy about popcorn
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: today
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Popcorn birds when you get therapy are you 80 years old?
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you Bill Cosby?
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been told I'm not allowed to do the boy. Anyway, I didn't that was me at therapy
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you like is therapy just a chance for you to work out your bits like
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's impossible there
[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Therapies to stage you know what I mean?
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what do you think about this one? I'm working on a guy named Dave Dressel
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Dave no that didn't work
[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's me there it is
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Tell us say I'm not doing that in therapy occasionally
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure the fashion's originally aired on the Disney Channel on April 5th 2002
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It was written by a stew Criger stew. It was directed by Paul
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Jemati Hoenn
[00:09:59] No
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I cannot who's done all sorts of stuff including what?
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Can you see more we'll see more of his work with cheetah girls one world? Oh
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Camp Rock the deuce the final jam zombie but zombie zombie 2 and zombie 3 he's
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Still he's still added it appears those are gonna be a new musical experience for me
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen any of these on the movies. Oh
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: My gosh also also jump in read it and weep any million dollar cookoff you wish and of course true confessions
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and look at the Irish so we've seen him before man
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a
[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Star he is a star
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly right. It is starring one Clara Bryant and
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Shia
[00:10:50] Lubbuff
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And Clara went on to do amazing things did she no
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: The shade at Clara for no reason no reason
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You watch this movie and it's like wow Clara is great and then
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like nothing it's crazy to think that this movie came out one year exactly almost before holes a
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: movie like
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: How did he make this and holes within a year of each other like that's why he's an actor an actor
[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He's an actor. He can do it. He can do different things
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: We meet shrewdie you can call it true if you want to I think they're gonna okay
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And she is just your average teenage girl
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't know high school. Yeah, and she aspires to one day have her own TV show
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Now a dream she would just want to be a professional youtuber, but back in back today
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You wanted your own TV. Yeah, she would just be on tiktok
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she'd be on tiktok the barricades to getting on TV
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: 22 years ago way different than what they are now yes being on TV now not a big deal
[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know in TV then huge deal. I mean we're on TV. That's right
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it that you said it
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: We just film and we don't even know if anyone watches but we put it on the YouTube
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: We did something for South Carolina public radio. That's gonna be on tea on South Carolina eTV good
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You got it. Yep, big big bong. That's as quick as they were cut in this big bong
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That's is that's accurate for the movie. Where's a sunflower when you need it? No
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a movie about kids with special needs. Oh, what if we quick cut it?
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Music video
[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we should put a trigger warning that if you have like oh
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She's your warning like it was a quick cut. Oh, they'll be fine
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: What was I gonna say about that? Oh, yeah, if you could subscribe that'd be great um
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: TV at all TV and all subscribe to the TV subscribe to the TV smash that subscribe button
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So she always has her camera out she always is recording everybody whether or not they consent
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: to being filmed she is gonna record you and
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe using a documentary at some point when she is out with her friends
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You'd think man. She's got it all her life is perfect. She's great friends
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: She's loving her life, but at home. It's a little bit more complicated. She has a a complicated
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Relationship with her family. She has a twin brother named Eddie who has some form of a learning disability
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Which we learn is caused from losing oxygen at birth
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: They slide that right in there
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And she loves her brother, but also feels like her parents only care about Eddie
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They give Eddie the benefit of the doubt. They don't give her anything
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't understand her and she thinks that Eddie is the favorite because of all the attention
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The passes that he gets whenever he like acts out or whatever
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: She thinks that the parents only care about Eddie at school true has a major crush a
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Major Billy why tell me what Wilder it is Billy Billy Wiley Billy Weissman Billy Wiley
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go with a therapist. What do you think about this one? It's Billy Wiley. I'm up to no good
[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna trip you
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Could even be Billy Meyer
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Billy Meyer one yes
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They might well, you know knows my therapist is a clown
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: In full clown garb honk honk honk and need
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It is clear that she loves her brother because she goes to check on them every day at school
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like her way of like, you know
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: She hasn't gone to home room yet, but he is already
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: There's about a 12 to 14 to 1 ratio student to teacher in Eddie's room with our kids of all different
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_01]: levels of developmental delay
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably 30 to 1
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: There were two teachers in there. Yeah, what are the teachers at the tie?
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_00]: 15 one of the teachers has a tie
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So
[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Special education in 2002 was top-notch crushing it true finds out that there is a video contest for the local TV
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Channel and the winner she treats a cold stick for that news. That's right gets her gets her own TV show
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is actually kind of misleading. Yeah, it's basically she's they get to show her short movie
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a short film. That's all they're doing. That's all it is get a TV contract. It's misleading
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of she got a TV show on the public
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: No
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they were just showing her movie but it does it is weird. I thought so too, but now watching it now
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh this is it because when she talks she's always like I can't wait to have my own TV show
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But what we see is the winner is
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they just aired her winning thing like it hadn't I just assumed that it had
[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: We to think
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Are we to think at the end of this movie?
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously don't want to spoil anything, but you're here. You've probably seen the movie are we to think at the end of this movie that there are more
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: TV episodes coming of her home camera with her and Eddie
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would think that she would then have to go into the public
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Like TVs like station and actually work on something with other like I don't think I don't think it was based on that
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So why did that have her when why was that the thing that just to show what you can do and like what Matt? I don't know
[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Huh someone knows
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: They had a public TV show too, and I just imagine it was like that where they just gave her a half hour at like a random time
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought she got that one hour. She gets the work on that's I'd love my own TV show
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I can work on my abets again. You could have one we have one we have multiple
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: so many shows
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Billy Wiley
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Trippie
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Billy I'm sorry it's okay
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you forget me? No
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get gonna trip you
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_02]: your popcorn. Oh no
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Her mom tries to be like, you know realistic about it is like, you know, I don't want you to get too excited
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a chance that you might not win but that doesn't let true stop her true is all in on this
[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you love when you're so excited about something and the first thing your mom says as well
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_02]: The chances are very slim. There's a lot of talented kids
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no true true yells at her mom a lot
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Throughout this movie she did a yell at her after this and said basically exactly what Aaron said and the mom doesn't crush it a
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: hundred percent of the time or even
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: often but
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You know
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Be nice to your parents sometimes, you know
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a parent now. I've been I've such a such a boomer now
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I will say as a parent that convert what you just said like
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: When your kids get really excited about something and you're you're not sure it's going to happen
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Your initial response is to not give them any inkling that you're lying to them
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So like my initial response is not to be like
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man because then if it doesn't happen
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna look at me and they're gonna think that I lied to them even though I didn't my initial response is to be like
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Now wait a minute, but you're still right which is I think
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Line of so hard. Yeah, this is a really cool opportunity
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about it
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Just so we understand, you know, it's one of the few like this movie presents a lot of interesting
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Quadra quandaries that you have as a parent
[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially of twins with different strengths and weaknesses that I could get into later
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's one thing this movie does well is that it a lot of this stuff
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Hitting it correctly is actually really hard to do
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm, and they'd show that so there's that
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure when we watch this as kids we got that they yeah
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The the difficulty
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That is parenting yeah, I'm sure me came to this movie is crushing it
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_02]: No, we were like you you tell her true your mom's a bee. I
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what and so
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: True is like what am I gonna make my project about it's so tough
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So she turns to a teacher that encourages her to make it personal and feature something that really matters to you
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know right what you know type of thing and she'll see the size if she's gonna make a documentary
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Loosely about her brother, but specifically about the brain mm-hmm which all 14 year olds are
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Interested in course big time and the good news is her dad is a brain surgeon
[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So he's gonna be super helpful. She's gonna interview him right gonna interview him right? She does not
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_00]: She works really hard for a while on this movie
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like you know working on a day and night
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Getting big books and stuff and is trying to put as much information into it as possible
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: she invites her friends over to see the movie they do make popcorn and
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: The problem is is it's boring AF the everybody
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody is bored. It appears to be like 45 minutes long on a lecture about the brain
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It is it's just a she went way too hard on the eddie is thrilled to be a movie star and after four minutes
[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: He falls asleep. Yeah, yeah, which I'm blaming bear
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_01]: One example of her friends being the best people on the planet is this example where they do their best to stay awake and be
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Positive until they absolutely have to be honest with her
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean yeah 40 minutes at some point. I've been like so is this this is the whole this the whole thing
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You make it hold 40 minutes for you asked I would not I'd be like I
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Would I would do a few like lots in her
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there'd be a lot of like preambles like three minutes in big this is so good
[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like six minutes. I'm like oh, it's really cool and then and then about 10
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd probably be like so is it all like for me?
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it all like science stuff? Thank you. Is it all like science?
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Education like science class. She borrowed like the science lab at school. I think I got it
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're good not these friends
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: They just try to look interested and that's all they can
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So she ends up turning to the internet to get some advice
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, message board the best place for you love that 2002 internet
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You won't you also will never find bad advice on a message board. It's all great
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's 99% solid for sure
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and so
[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: She goes on to this message board to basically like I need help kind of like
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_00]: knowing what to do with my brother and
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The challenges that I have but also like what to do with my projects, you know, I want to help
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_00]: use this
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Documentary this project to help my brother
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know the best way to go about that basically
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and she begins to get some feedback from someone named
[00:22:11] And
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: DD actually is really encouraging is encouraging her to make the documentary more
[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Personal if only someone like DD like was in her real life. You know what I mean? So spoiler alert
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_00]: DD is
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Mama
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_00]: DD is mama. Yeah, is mama
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And weirdly enough, you know this crazy but mom actually and gave her that same advice
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_00]: After it but it hits different from DD
[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00]: True does not know that
[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on with dad in the movie brain you haven't talked about him. He's not around he is kind of around dad
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's how I would describe dad dad like
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a brain surgeon. He's a brain surgeon. Okay
[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Gross people talk about that if your brain surgeon gross gross
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't tell anyone that if I was you it's gross
[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like she just found out for the first time that her dad is a brain surgeon. Yeah at 14 years old
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you believe you?
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Wish my dad could be something less embarrassing than brain surgeon. Thank you
[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So
[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he does that he you know works a good bit but when he's home
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like they mentioned that hey whenever dad gets home. We got to be chill
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Around dad so stressful and he has some anger
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Problems I can't handle when Eddie accidentally drops the glass bowl
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: How dare he?
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say you had glass dishes how many dropped dishes will it take for you to switch to plastic one
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: one
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so stupid and someday they're gonna get through a meal where nobody breaks anything
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I just can't believe that look forget the the premise of the film if you had when my twin boys are
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: 14 years old how many times will they be served something out of a glass dish at a just a regular family get together?
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: hardly ever
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how many times will they be asked to hold a glass bowl out over not the table never
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy. I'm putting it in my calendar. I'm coming over who do you think you are?
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but if you come up now if we have guessed a little bit different because typically you do things a little differently
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_02]: We have no I'm like bringing a glass bowl of broccoli over
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're gonna fight over that probably handling it
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, can you guys take this?
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Big helpers
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my wife is an OT like they get to do like my kids started using knives when they were three
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Like my wife started teaching them how to cut stuff
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Really throwing them they were like and they're good like they love to cut stuff. So like that's a developmentally appropriate, but
[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you who you trying to fool man? Who you trying to impress my kids still drink a cup that's plastic at the table
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So do I I don't like where you kidding me got here
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you just go you want to be safe. You want to take the risk. Why take the risk?
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Pine glass why would I know impress anybody? Um, so
[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They yes, so dad basically just like has an anger problem is basically what you need to know. Yeah, and doesn't really know how to best
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Relate not only the true but also to Eddie and some of the time other times he does a great job
[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He tries he goes and he plays baseball
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_01]: He plays baseball he takes him for a hot-fudge Sunday. He goes to the soccer thing. He cheers him on
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: He encourages he says just have fun. There is a solid
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Third of the dad's screen time where he is not only present but actively being a good father. Yes
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so one of the things that you begin to see in this movie is
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: How
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_00]: The peers at school kind of
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Talked to and treat the bully Eddie
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They bully Eddie. Yeah, and for the most part, you know, Eddie is able to either
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Ignore it or he doesn't understand what's happening or or whatever
[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But we see a few of these different instances one instant
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Instance one time you got it
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Stutter boy is this the character you're gonna it's called stutter boy stutter stutter stutter boy
[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's really kind
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So when um, they all go to like this fair thing
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: at the park and
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want me
[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, this is it nice. I'll tell you the joke later. Okay, but it's Aaron's joke. I wanted to get credit for it
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's really funny. It's too good for this podcast. Wow. Okay
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So
[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Podcasts a couple years too late. She can't quite
[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Find Eddie and Eddie ends up showing back up
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But he has a hat on and she said yeah, did you get this hat and he's like I can't tell you and he starts like playing it off
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like don't worry about it
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But then points over like I got it from these boys. They gave it to me
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have to give it back they gave it to me and she's like you can't take stuff from strangers
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So she takes them back over and wouldn't you know one of the boys Bobby?
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Billy why I'm gonna really Wiley. I'm a trip you it's Billy Meyer and
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Turns out Billy Myers just straight up the meanest meanest person alive worse. Yeah
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: She's like take your hat back and he's like why would we take the hat back when we all three took turns spitting in it and
[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Also drops a few hard Rs a few hard ours
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's tough. It's tough and it was tough for everybody
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Including true true gets so mad any
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Billy is sitting on this
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Bridge and she pushes him off the bridge he lives I think
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, yeah, he is alive. That's great great
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But has it come in
[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's just one of those instances that you see where Eddie is not
[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: treated the best by his fellow high school peers and so
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: She's kind of takes this and is like I want to try to put a spotlight on Eddie and show people
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: like one how amazing Eddie is but also how
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Life is a little bit different for Eddie and try to bring some understanding for that
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So she begins going like full into this project
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: She finishes it and she mails it off
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's waiting well
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: consider
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Mailing and submissions and just doing it. Yeah, Willie. No, you got to put a little sauce on there
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: She does put a little sauce on it. There's a little
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Glitter directly on a VHS tape so great is that VHS tape in any sort of protective case?
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: No, just straight in the middle. That's how they send those things we're gonna wave some feathers
[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Straight into the right in there play that bad boy. No problem. Um, and she's waiting. She's waiting. She really wants to
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: find out if she wins and
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: She does she gets a letter in the mail and she wins and
[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Her mom is like I'm so proud of you and
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: True you're like, wow, this is gonna be a great moment where the mother and daughter
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: True then looks at her mom and says if everybody sees this it makes fun of me
[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be all your faults, but isn't this after she comes clean about being Dee Dee. Yeah. Yes
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, I forgot about the duty part
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah mom says something that you know
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: She gives says advice to true that Dee Dee had also said to true and true freaks out
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: assumes that her mother
[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Was doing it to like not necessarily blackmail true but get true to say things that she could then like hold over her
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Then doesn't really listen to our mom. So yeah, it's it's a good good time for everybody
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is an important thing is if you were ever
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know trying to be somebody else on the internet use different lingo, you know
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta use the different
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't don't
[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: There's another way to go about it for sure
[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you do if you are if I did kill her here's how if I did if I did
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Someone this OJ Simpson wrote a book wrote a book if I did it if I did it
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of jokes will kill people and I'm beginning to have questions
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Haven't heard from your wife. He's saying take this popcorn. Just take it. Take it just take it. It's good
[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Um
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So she finds out she's so excited and it is time for
[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: the big
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: premiere and
[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They watch it and you know, it's it's it's tough. It's really, you know
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It shows everything that she wanted to show it shows how
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Amazing Eddie is it shows how life is sometimes difficult for Eddie
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: it shows how the way in which people have treated him over the years has
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: influenced how he sees himself and all this stuff it showcases in this movie and
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Dad's nowhere to be found
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Does not in the film, but he's definitely at home with the family
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But he's gonna watch it all from a discrete location called a hospital. Yes, he's at work hallway
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He watches the entire documentary and he's this other doctors like
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Dodge tough being a doctor. I just never at home and his dad's like those nurses had the TV tuned to the public
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, with the volume up volume up and have the TV turned not from where they're sitting
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: People need to see people checking into the hospital want to watch public broadcast. I know I do
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And so he begins to be like man
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not around and then like I guess he just can't let it go
[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So he goes he goes up to true the next day and is like hey watch it again
[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Where's your old man? Where's your man at huh?
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I got a burn disk for you. She pulls out a disc from her backpack and says
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna want to see this
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02]: She actually says you're not gonna want to see a hit tape
[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I can handle it and then that can't handle real after real of her dad being mean and angry and yelling
[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Over and over again at his children. That's all it is on a loop
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And based on the time lapse that clip with tape is wait a minute. Oh, it's so long
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it is just the greatest hits and the greatest hits are every single experience
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently that dad was mean brutal. Yeah more or less
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And so then she goes outside and she kind of like makes up with her mom as well and
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, also on that tape on that tape is a clip. Yes
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: She had was filming herself saying
[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_02]: If I ever do make a TV show about my life cast someone else as my mother
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you see her mom in the background get real like she looks hurt
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like the first time true realized that her words have actions and consequences
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So she goes out has a hard time with her mom in their park of a backyard. Yeah, it's massive
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Find mom
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And
[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_00]: basically the movie ends with true and Eddie on the couch and they're watching some clips
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: He keeps wanting to watch it over and over again the shot of him
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Getting a golden soccer and him celebrating with true and he talks about how he likes this clip
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't want anything to change them together as twins earlier in the movie
[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a scene where he asks true if she's mad at him because they don't play together anymore
[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And he like misses being her twin. Yes
[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, did we we skip over the library? We'll skip over. I mean
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a point in saying there's other scenes there's other scenes where Eddie
[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's it's tough. He gets lost. I'll do it quickly. You can take a drink
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_02]: They're at the library and Eddie accidentally walks onto an elevator in this giant mall of a library
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Ends up on a different floor can't find true and freaks out true and her friend who do we know his name?
[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: No, we don't I'm sure he has one
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they said his name once in the opening shot and then we'd like never address him again
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_02]: But they immediately they hear him scream immediately take off to find him
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We see world's worst librarian who sees a child in distress and just goes hey
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_02]: calm down and
[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Then tries to get them, you know kicked out of the library and you know
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He's you know Eddie's crying true trying to comfort him and the friend again top-notch friend
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like they need a minute like go away
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a sweet scene where Eddie just realizes that you know
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He's different and life is more difficult for him and he doesn't want to be different
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And and true is just listening all these great qualities about him
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like yeah, you are different
[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's what makes you you and being you is like you are the brother that I I love so
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_02]: We haven't done one in a while, but shout out to my brother JJ love you shout out shout out to
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it time finally for Jesse or another Pat or Josh I'll shout out Jesse
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Jen's gonna be Jim again
[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: We're the quick break we're gonna come back
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And all that good stuff here on
[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna play
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We can throw the popcorn beer and leaves we wanted this thing
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Not what it is
[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It's time to
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Share our thoughts on true confessions in our segment over time
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a we're talking about how this movie aged over time and our thoughts on it overall
[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I do have some letterbox reviews if you would like for for me to read those
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the one week. I'm like, I don't know. Well, let's find out
[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Emily says five stars. Holy s Disney Channel. This was a for real emotional ride
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't ready for it 9 a.m. On a Saturday
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta know when you gotta know when to watch this one Saturday morning
[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone knows 9 a.m. On a Wednesday. Yeah, the ideal time to watch this one
[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Clara says three stars and
[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Astutely says what we said which is true would a true would love to make
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: X
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: exploit
[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Exploited exploitative. Yes, YouTube videos of her brother for AdSense if there we go today
[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true exactly. She'd be reeling in all that money from Google ads. That's right
[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Vinyl chicks says whenever I tell people that this movie exists. They look at me like I have two heads
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Fair cute boy no problems. I
[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: wrote this review
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Said the hardest I've ever cried in my life was watching this movie at 12 years old
[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea if it holds up. It's probably pretty offensive, but oh my god
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: My life was changed when I watched this movie my computer just died
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm pulling up the notes again. I have to I have two more and one of them
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to read because it may be laugh at that
[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry. I have three more Sam Sam says I can't wait for Mark of Warburg to be cast in true confession's age of extension
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is growl great
[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That's good. That's because Shia wasn't the man. That's exactly right. Mark. Well bring a man. No one will know
[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Lili says F you pal. Oh
[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is just
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's tough you think you know a guy
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_02]: He also was on this is Billy Meyer
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Was Paolo in the lizard war I movie and then he's also I'm pretty little liars and he's also a jerk there Wow and then
[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's kind of like in this and also in Elizabeth wire where he comes in
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like the cute new boy. You're like, oh look at him and then it turns out
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the bad guys. So if you ever see this guy in a movie, don't trust him and then cheese puff
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: 5000 said they put an Oscar bait plot in a D-com
[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah for us to share our thoughts on this movie Aaron
[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you saw it back then and you've seen it now your thoughts on true confessions
[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is a movie that I remember watching when it came out
[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe saw one more time since then but I don't think so
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's exactly how I remembered it
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: They are in there
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: There's definitely some language that I don't agree with and don't support that is used in this movie
[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Both in the ways that you know
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Then the negative language used to describe Eddie and also the frequent use of handicap and all these different ways to describe the situation
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but overall I
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: do think it is a
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: good
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Good, but it's a good portrayal of like a family who doesn't have it all figured out who is
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to love and support and be there for each other
[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_02]: We're also like shedding light on an important topic and bringing some empathy from their surrounding community
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: So am I gonna watch it again the next 24 years?
[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's gonna be tough in y'all's rankings
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because if you've your whole time you've been like what move on most like to watch again
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a tiebreaker for oh, so tiebreaker for you. Yeah, that's just brand soul
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: No
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I put it somewhere and then if I'm kind of iffy on like one or the other the tiebreaker is
[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think I'm a mega place keep moving up my list
[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That one out. Yeah
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So not a movie that I'm gonna watch frequently
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it hit all the notes for me. I definitely got emotional in the library scene
[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_02]: My younger brother he's not my twin
[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He's my younger brother
[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But he is one of the most important people in the world to me and I would do anything to protect him
[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_02]: so
[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That sisterly love
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: They hit for me and I'm not emotion about it and on to you Brent
[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: This movie I also saw it as a child and at the time was
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: relatively
[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: influential in my life and
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Is like what it was one of the reasons why I started like making videos in
[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_00]: middle and high school
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: and
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that the movie is
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: What it sets out to do I think it accomplishes I think it is a chock full of
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Really good performances and some very powerful scenes
[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it a decom? I don't know this is a
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Heavy stuff here heavy stuff
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a very special
[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think this is like the top like one of the toughest movies for me to put on my list
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Because of my past with it because I think that overall is actually really well done
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: They're doing some things in this movie. They're taking some one like
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Artistic choices that I think are interesting
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: their performance the performances are really solid and
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The the way in which they handle parenting
[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I think is really interesting in this movie and something that as a kid I totally missed
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I miss you miss that part of it as a parent myself. I
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Spend almost every day
[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Thinking about the way in which I responded to my kids and thinking like did I handle that the best like and the answer
[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Is probably not like like you miss it a lot as a parent and
[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And in this situation in this movie
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You you I noticed it
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Not only that it was happening
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But that the parents were dealing with that whether they were dealing with it out loud or not a parent
[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the mom going on to this message board and finding her daughter on there and being like
[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a way for me to connect with her. Is it the best way?
[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know but it's a way for me to connect with her is like so like a real dilemma and
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_00]: There's stuff like that like decompers typically so cut and dry and it's like they did this it was silly
[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It was fun. I had fun great and in this one. It's like
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a met it's a messy movie and so it's it's messier for me to figure out where to put it
[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I I agree with you
[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_00]: there's some obviously some stuff in the way in which they
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They talk about Eddie like them using the our word is obviously a very bold choice
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's not like that to me is like, okay
[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You want to do that like you want to be true to how kids talk to this guy as like probably kind dad
[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You and I thought about it like that's just the way that it was and so and that is a really like
[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Eddie getting called that name and then him equating that name with being stupid when he's like there's a scene on the beach
[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Where he's mad at you kite and he's saying it's a stupid kite. It's a stupid kite
[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_02]: This the kite is yes, and he uses the our word just write the kite and that's a scene where true is filming him
[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Because she films everything and I think it's when it clicks for her like
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Eddie is realizing what is going on around him and like the way that people are treating him
[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He's taking that all too hard. Yeah, it's similar
[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's similar to like when color friendship used the n-word and it's like you know what like my
[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Decon to be going for shock value when like presenting the message of the movie
[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. I like it's I wonder if it used that like like
[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Because color friendship using the n-word did not air on Disney. That was that was a thing that I discovered
[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: In watching it on Disney. Yeah, I think that this this would have been tougher to cut around
[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like this they use it multiple times
[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Integral part I think it's a part of it
[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was an important part of the movie as well. And so it's a really tough one
[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I think like for my money. I think this is one of the best
[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Movies that we've seen so far. I don't know where to put it as far as yeah
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Dana
[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hate hate this movie. I
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Think that the best case scenario
[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Is if you watch this as a child and your parents weren't doing a great job parenting you
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you learned some basic human decency and I don't say that
[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Sarcastically, I wasn't a great kid in middle school. And so
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I could have definitely chosen how I treated people better. And I think there is value in
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: 12 year old watching this movie in 2002
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And going I need to treat people better and I think there's value there
[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I also think there's value in
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The nuance of what it means to be a parent of kids with different abilities. And I think that is also great
[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I think if the movie did not have the video
[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Components it could have been a very strong movie that also worked as a DCOM
[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_01]: but the problem is is that
[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not her story. It's not her story
[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_01]: it isn't
[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_01]: you can tell
[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_01]: your story and include your brother because you love him and
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome, but when you decide to exploit your brother who does have agency
[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He has agency. I don't care if his brain is is is working at a four-year-old level
[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone has agency when you decide to do that for your own personal gain
[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a lesson. That's
[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_01]: The the secondary and tertiary lesson that happens after human decency
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the one that actually sits in and sinks in
[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not your story
[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_01]: it isn't and nobody told her that nobody told her it wasn't her story and
[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So unfortunately she exploits her brother for her own personal gain and even if she didn't mean to do it
[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The impact is still there and I hated that I hated that for everyone involved
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I hate that it celebrated and I hate that it was on the Disney Channel
[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Having said that that's not how most people are watching these movies
[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm trying my best to couch that with the fact that most people are watching for that basic message, right?
[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't mind the R word
[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mind them saying handicap because those two things are things we wouldn't say now
[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_01]: but we would say then and people would say and that's a good way to learn those lessons and I hope that 12 year
[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: old year olds learned some good human decency, and I hope that parents
[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Like saw themselves and saw that it's really hard and they were encouraged by the fact that nobody gets the right
[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Not even decomparents, but I can't
[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Let my personally I can't not think
[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: More about the other side of this movie which drove me nuts, and I really really hated it
[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And if it was about which movie do I want to watch again? This would be dead last
[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's that but I didn't see as a kid. So sorry that was so
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I think I think that is an excellent point that I wasn't thinking about it 12 no
[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you should be asked to yeah, but watching it today like
[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's weird that she has everyone so involved in the first draft of her movie
[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And then when she decides to make it more personal absolutely nobody
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Says anything nobody wants to see it and there are points along the way where as a parent
[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you should be a little bit more involved in
[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_02]: content that your child
[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like DD Dd slash mom's biggest issue is seeing trues post on the message board was I want to respond to her
[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't want her to be mad at me
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas what I was thinking about watching it was like you should go have a talk with your daughter that she's posting on message
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Awards using her real information. Yeah
[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so I know that the internet was new
[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Well my biggest concern watching it was like there's not a whole lot of like what you're putting out there
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Seeing first kid anybody can do
[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. Yeah taken at the mall
[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, so that that's an excellent point this is just
[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the parents and eddie should have been involved in what
[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Video she was including because like when the video turned slightly negative to showing
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You know eddie having a meltdown at the store
[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Eddie watching it was shocked that this was like he was like oh like yeah, you know
[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: He was excited to be a movie star 100 and then the movie takes a total shift
[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And the people in the room like yeah, it's an important piece of filmmaking
[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But she made all those decisions you've all you may not have but I know a lot of us
[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I myself included have been in a situation where there is someone in your school in your
[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_01]: community with a
[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Some sort of developmental delay or disability and that person is used as a mascot
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Or used as a as a rah-rah cheering thing and in some cases
[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that that person in their agency has
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Has really been involved and in other cases it hasn't
[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And the answer is always but look look at them. Look how much they love it
[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Look how they love it over there
[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what this movie is for 86 minutes and that is the thing that drove me up the wall
[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_01]: If she's not making a movie if she's just learning
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I'm treated differently because I am different
[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm angry and that's okay to be angry. My parents don't always get it right and
[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: My brother should be loved for who he is and if you don't love him for who he is
[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Then i'm either going to push you off a bridge
[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna I'm going to make sure that that doesn't happen again or I'm going to protect him from that
[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Then this movie is amazing. It's great
[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But unfortunately we get the the thing that I that drives me nuts. So that was unfortunate. Yeah, yeah
[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And like and I think it would that message would have been
[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty easy to work in yeah, and would have helped
[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know kids like me that watch this movie and said I want to make movies
[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I want to make movies that make a difference because that's what the message of the movie is
[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's why this is a tough movie for me because it's like it's seminal for you
[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It matters and it didn't like it of course as a 12 year old. They're not you're not going well
[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_00]: What about it? Like any didn't they get to say like yeah, that's right. That's not a part of the message. So
[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_00]: They just show you Eddie being excited at the end. That's right. He's happy. Yeah, it's all that matters. Yeah, so uh
[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a tough one. It's a tough one, but he has a lot of like
[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_02]: He has multiple heart to hearts with true and so they show in the movie that he does
[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Like in true is always advocating when the mom's like, he doesn't know better and she's like he does know better
[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's like okay true on one hand you recognize that he needs to be given
[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You know treat it, you know treated in a different way than we're treating him. He knows what he's doing, you know
[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And so then you also need to treat him that way. You can't just yell at your mom be like you need to give him rules
[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You also need to treat him and talk to him like the person he is the better version of this would have been
[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: She makes the last version of the movie first and people go hey
[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_01]: No, and then she makes the first version of the movie last
[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That's where you educate people on this and how it's affected you and what the brain is like
[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That is actually what we should be learning here and instead that was played for science laughs
[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Or even like a version of the first like inspiration porn. That's what happens
[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I think if the family starts to learn to communicate better and then it becomes
[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_02]: A family project would be amazing to go through these clips together have eddie be like, oh, you know
[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Eddie laughing at these moments of them, you know playing soccer and and having the family involved in what goes into this portrayal of them
[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Is a better option than her being so secretive about it in her
[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_02]: bedroom
[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's bigger than my apartment. Yeah for sure. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep
[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So does he when you hire mark balberg and you are making the sequel to this
[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we have notes and we're here to consult for and I believe you said it true confessions extinction
[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Age of age of extinction perfect
[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh
[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we talked it's tough. It's tough to make the list, but we're professionals. Yeah, we are and someone has to do it
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Why not us? Why not now?
[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Aaron, where are you putting true confessions on your list? Um, this movie's gonna air in my top 10. I was kidding
[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow
[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: bold
[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, this movie is not going to premiere in my top 10 if you can believe it
[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, brand I know it's probably your number one right now, but well, it's great. It's great. Great. Bring a true confession
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_01]: What a double feature breaking to break down
[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: um
[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: This movie is gonna premiere at 28
[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's 28 oh my list too same spot
[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean there's a few that I hadn't seen
[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Until we did this podcast and so therefore they don't have like so this one is gonna beat out those like can of worms and under wraps
[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_02]: That I never watched as a kid and yeah, they were good movies, but like I don't care
[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So like that sentimental factor is gonna bump it up a little bit
[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but it is right behind scene on the sequel and right ahead of hounded
[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So I have a shy olabuff double feature in my list true
[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Minds you but I have true confessions behind hounded. Yeah
[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I just think I'd rather cry about it than watch that rabid dog scene again
[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Hounded 75 minutes and shy as a bully at it and he's funny. Give me that over true confessions
[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I just can't get through that spare that rabbit dog scene that lasts 45
[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Neither are good. I can't
[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so yeah, my top 10 hasn't changed. We've got 10 twas the night
[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_02]: nine xinan
[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_02]: eight phantom of the mega plex seven halloween town six luck of the irish
[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: five smart house
[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_02]: four miracle lane two three johnny tsunami
[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_02]: two cadet kelly and one motocross
[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_00]: um
[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_00]: This is going to change as mentioned. This is the hardest movie I've ever had to put on a list
[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I could say this the hardest we have ever had to put on a list
[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not surprising to me, but also wild
[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I it's it's gonna go to 17 on my list is where it's gonna start slower than I thought it would be
[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll just kind of sit with it sit with it there for a while. It's behind alley cat strike
[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's ahead of genius for me. So that's behind. Of course. That's where we are. Yeah
[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, my top 10 is the same jet jackson 10 double teamed nine phantom eight
[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Mom's got a date seven. It's about time to rewatch those
[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, luck in the irish six smart house five cadet kelly four motocross three
[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Johnny tsunami two and number one the greatest movie of all time
[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And not sad
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_00]: break
[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Um and for those of you who were wondering
[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Still no word from brand's wife. So that wellness director her has gone unanswered so far
[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_01]: If he did it, he may have done it. That's what we're saying. Yes
[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to say this I wouldn't kill my wife the way you said that makes me think otherwise
[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to say this I wouldn't kill my other people
[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_00]: verdicts out
[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Man slippery slope though. Just not a performer. It's a slippery slope. I can see that true confessions is
[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I know my list too and I got to be honest. I if it's about rewatch ability, it's probably last but I just felt like
[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Some movies like
[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Ready to run and the 13th year and xenon the zequel and rip girls and your lucky dog
[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You lucky dog and the jenny project and step sister from planet weird all are actively bad
[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're go this movie is trying to be good and it has
[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I honestly think I put it at 28 because of the performance is I think performance alone
[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think across the board the performances are anywhere from solid to great. So that
[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Kept it from being
[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it is technically bottom 10. Can really jay brown as true. Oh my god. Are you kidding me?
[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_00]: She probably won me over but I thought that I've already forgotten her name for what it's worth, but I did think she was
[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Good in this movie and the chemistry she had with shia. I bought them as siblings
[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Shia is a shia is a really talented actor. I don't
[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Know if this is I mean, I think the story of this makes it tough like he was committed and I think that's that's one of the
[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You can always say about shia. Love off. He's not gonna be not committed
[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_01]: um
[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Although he also could be committed from time to time and it would not hurt like both of those things are my top 10
[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Smart house 10 9 quints
[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Eight brink seven miracle in lane two six cadet kelly five halloween town
[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Four phantom of the mega plex three moms got a date with a vampire two johnny tsunami and one
[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Motocross bestie com biforc
[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_00]: We did everybody congratulations next week it's back to fun. Yeah, a lot of hi jinx. I don't know it's me
[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's you it's get a clue
[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait and then I think we're doing we're doing um
[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The phantom of the mega plex halloween rewatch that's gonna be your house. It's on it's gonna be it's on the calendar
[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait for that. Yeah, I'll send you an invite. Yeah, of course. Yeah, absolutely
[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Until then remember this first to wish you a decon
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